This is going to be a fun study. This is the culmination of our doctrinal study on the depravity of homosexuality and the transgender movement. Which is our application ministering to homosexuals. Next week, we'll do questions and answers. And I've gotten about seven questions that I'll cover. If you have any other questions, be sure and send them to me. Be sure and send them to me. Also, I'd like to remind from our lecture on homosexuality and women from last week, where we talked about hair length for women. Remember, I stressed that the Bible does not give us specific hair length. What it does give us is gender-specific identification. So when we talk about short hair for women, we are not talking about a hairstyle which the husband prefers. Bible gives a lot of leeway there. We are talking about what in America the slang is called a butch haircut. That's a part on the side with the hair slicked down and combed in a masculine manner, or the head shaved, partial or in its entirety. That's what we're talking about there. We also remember, we stress that there are exceptions. One is aging. Many Anglo women as they age begin to lose their hair or their hair becomes brittle and they simply cannot wear it very long. The other is disease. There are a number of diseases both for Anglos and other races. that either the disease or the treatment causes hair loss. And then, of course, there is the husband's preference in 1 Peter 3, 1 and 2. Even non-Christians, a wife should submit to her husband and wear her hair just for him. The only exception for that is if the husband wants his wife to behave as a homosexual woman, as a lesbian. She would not have to submit to that. Having said that, let's go to the Lord in prayer, shall we? O Lord God, this is your holy word. We are your servants. Give us wisdom that we might know your testimonies. You have prayed, O Lord, sanctify them in truth. Thy word is truth. Use your holy, eternal, inerrant word to set us apart this day to your service and to your glory. Show us now great and mighty things which we do not know. The sower sows the word. Let not your word go out and return empty, but accomplish that purpose for which you are sending it out and for which you have gathered us together. Protect us from Satan who will snatch your word. Protect us from a wrong reaction to difficulties and discouragements and persecutions which make our hearts hard and unresponsive to your word. Protect us from the world's cares, and the delight of wealth, and the passion of other interests, which enter in and choke your word, making it fruitless. Rather, give us good soil, O Lord. Plow out now the hard ground of our hearts, that your sown word would send roots downward, and bear fruit upwards. Unsheath now the sword of your spirit, O LORD. Cut to the dividing point of bone and marrow, soul and spirit. Judge now the thoughts and intention of each heart gathered here. Spread your word before us as a banquet table, O LORD. grant grace that we might eat of the rich meat and drink of the sweet milk of the great doctrines of your word. Give us the heart of the prophet who cried to you, thy words were found and I did eat them and thy words became to me a joy and the delight of my heart. from called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. O LORD, we live in a dark and a wicked age. Broad is the way, and many are on it, which leads to destruction. Make your word a lamp to our feet. Make your word a light to our path. Show us that narrow way that you would have us run. And Lord, as we run in the paths of your commandments, enlarge our hearts that in loving you we might be more obedient to your written word. Drop your word against our lives as a plumb line, O Lord. Grant grace that we might see how we deviate from its high and holy purposes. Make your word to us a mirror, O Lord. Grant grace that we might not be as those who look and go away and forget, but make us active doers, not forgetful listeners of your holy word. O Lord, because of our fealty to you, because of our undying love and devotion to your Son, our resurrected Savior. We pledge to you this day our total submission to your holy, eternal, inerrant written word. And we pledge to you our unquestioning obedience to all of its commands. In the name of our Lord and resurrected Savior, Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. Amen and Amen. Okay, when we talk about ministering to homosexuals, we must remember the key doctrinal teachings on homosexuals. Ministry to homosexuals cannot be done apart from the Word of God. Romans 1, 26-28, For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions, for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural. And in the same way also men abandoned the natural function of women. and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts, receiving in their own person the due penalty of their error. Just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind to do those things which are not proper." It's very important as heterosexuals, for us to remain cognizant of the fact that homosexual sin is uniquely distinct from heterosexual sin. In that, in the homosexual, both the desire and the action is sin. If the heterosexual is involved in heterosexual sin, pornography, fornication, adultery, he need only repent of the sin. He may not repent of his heterosexuality. In fact, to suppress his heterosexuality would be a sin and damage to him spiritually. But, according to God the Holy Spirit, the very desire of the homosexual is unnatural versus the very desire of the heterosexual is natural, as spoken of here, the natural function for that which is unnatural. The result of this are indecent acts carried out by depraved minds. In the heterosexual community, sexual intimacy is neither indecent nor depraved if expressed in marriage. This is not true with homosexuality. The desire of the heterosexual is good, it's given by God, and simply needs to be brought under the control of the Holy Spirit. The homosexual's very desire is unnatural, degrading, indecent, and depraved, as defined by God the Holy Spirit. The so-called celibate homosexual is still living in rebellion against God by his desires. He is still a homosexual, a non-practicing homosexual, true, but still a homosexual, and as such is still in sin and unrepentant. That's very hard for heterosexuals to wrap their heads around. because heterosexuals simply need to repent of this. Homosexuals need not only repent of the action, but the roots of the action. The roots of the action of the homosexual is that he exchanged the natural function. He abandoned the natural function. As a result, homosexuality is a choice. Men abandoned the natural function of the woman. Women exchanged the natural function for that, which is unnatural. Of course, homosexuals will say they've been born that way. And it's an embarrassment for me that leaders in the church are beginning to embrace this lie. What sin, okay, let's take heterosexual sin. What heterosexual sin are we willing to accept because the heterosexual sinner says he was born that way? Pornography, adultery, fornication, rape, abuse of women, pedophilia. Are we willing to say, well, he was born that way, there's nothing he can do about it? because he claims to have been born that way? No. And we don't accept the validity of the born that way argument if it is contradicted by scripture. So homosexuals have just added to their sins lying to their sexual depravity. That shouldn't surprise us. Shouldn't surprise us because the homosexual has been given over by God. God, how can you say they've been given over by God? That's so judgmental. Oh, I would never say that. God, the Holy Spirit says it. It's like when I'm witnessing and I say it is appointed for men to die once and after that comes judgment. God, John, how can you be so judgmental? I don't believe God would send anyone to hell. You're not saying my sainted aunt, just because she wasn't a Christian and she was better than all those hypocrites in the church, you're not saying she's burning in hell. See, I would never say that, but God the Holy Spirit does. John 14, six. I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me. Hebrews 9.27 It is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment. Revelation 20.15 And if any man's name was not found in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire. God the Holy Spirit says concerning homosexuals, God gave them over to degrading passions. God gave them over to depravity, a depraved mind. We know one of the doctrines of the unredeemed is the doctrine of depravity. Christians are not depraved. We are delivered from that. We must be as cautious when seeking to minister to homosexuals as Moses would be in his relationship with Pharaoh. Both were unrepentant under God's judgment and given over to their sins. That required an element of caution for Moses. He was not dealing with a man who was open. He was dealing with a man whose heart had been hardened. And God has given homosexuals over to depraved mind and degrading passions, and unless God changes that judgment upon them, it stands. The Word of God defines both the sin of homosexuality and what qualifies as repentance. We in the church do not get to do that. Hebrews 4, 12 and 13 says, For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, both joints of marrow, able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. There is no creature hidden from His sight. All things are opened and laid bare to His eyes of Him whom we have to do. The Word of God, not the sinner, defines both the sin and its origin. Again, not the sinner, but the Word of God. Remember the testimony of Adam in Genesis 3.12? The woman you gave me, she may be the sin. That doesn't establish the origin of sin as from Eve. doesn't mitigate the consequences of sin from Adam. God said, no, you rebelled and all creation fell. The testimony of Eve, the servant deceived me and I ate. It's part of your creation, God, so it's your fault. That does not establish the origin of the sin outside of Eve, nor free her from the personal responsibility. The testimony of the homosexual, I was born this way as created by God, is a lie and it fails the test of scripture. The testimony of many naive youth ministers and pastors that homosexuality is as a result of the imputed sin of the fall That he is a homosexual because of some damage done to him in the womb by the fall. And thus he was born this way. It's not supported by scripture. God the Holy Spirit, not homosexuals, defined this in. God the Holy Spirit says the homosexual was not born that way but rather chose to be that way. Now, before the world system and the medical community embraced homosexuality, There were extensive studies on the environment, especially the childhood environment, which led to a man or woman becoming a homosexual. These have since been suppressed, and homosexuals will no longer honestly relate their childhood experiences because the Born This Way doctrine even though it is unsupported by any scientific evidence, has, like evolution, been accepted as reality. The repentant homosexual is not a celibate, but rather a heterosexual. It's the were-some-of-you doctrine found in 1 Corinthians 6, 9-11. 1st Corinthians 6 9-11 take a pause here and let Pastor Greg read Pastor Greg if you would read 1st Corinthians 6 9-11 please and let's see Dr. Schaub, I'll get you to turn to Genesis 1 and I'm going to have you read a series of passages from Genesis 1 and 2. Okay, Pastor Greg, 1 Corinthians 9-11. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you, but you were washed. but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." Now notice this. They were effeminate homosexuals. They were solemnites, practicing homosexuals. But, these Corinthians are no longer that way. We know from primary source historical documents that both the great Greek philosophers such as Plato and the Greek temple system and the Greek culture were all rife with homosexuality. But they were delivered from that. They became heterosexuals. Milton, turn to Genesis 1 and 2 please. But they became heterosexuals. They were feminine men, they were homosexuals, but they are no longer. The key word here is sanctified. They were washed by the blood of Christ, they were justified by the blood of Christ, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Spirit of God. And they were sanctified, which means set apart to God's service and God's glory. God will not set apart a homosexual man for his service and glory. He will only set apart homosexual, heterosexual men and women. In the ministry of evangelism to homosexuals, one of the things we have to do is bring creation to the forefront. both the divine nature of creation and the historical Adam and the fact that life begins at conception. So two aspects of creation must be understood, embraced, and taught. The creation of Adam, a historical figure, and our creation at conception. God in His sovereignty decreed that there should be two genders and two genders only, male and female. At the creation of the historical Adam and Eve, this was not allegorical. It was a literal account of the decisions of God concerning the creation of human life. Okay, Milton, I'm going to make you work a little here. So read Genesis 1.26, Brother Milton. Then God said, Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. Yeah. There. Nothing could be clearer. God created man masculine. Genesis 2-7, Brother Milton. It says, Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being. So here we have a man, Adam. Now we know from Romans 5, and we're not going to go into the doctrine of imputation here, that the historical Adam is inseparable from the doctrines of salvation. Now, Brother Milton, flip the page over and read Genesis 2.18, please. It says, Then the Lord God said, It is not good for the man to be alone. I'll make him a helper suitable for him. So now we have man distinct from woman being spoken of. Now we're going to have the creation of woman, Genesis 2.21-23. So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept. Then he took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. Then the Lord God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. The man said, This is now bone of my bones. and flesh of my flesh, she shall be called woman, because she's taken out of man. Yes, that's a great rendition. I've heard that before. Adam saw Eve and said, whoa, man, look at this. Okay, so here we have the creation of woman. a distinct gender. Now, Brother Milton, Genesis 2, 24 and 25. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. And the man and his wife were both naked, and were not ashamed. So, at the dawn of creation, the creation of Adam, a man, the creation of woman Eve now the creation of sexual intimacy because they were both naked they were not ashamed and then God commanded them to procreate so through sexual intimacy and enjoyment of each other's bodies the earth would soon become filled with children now this reality is affirmed both the Genesis account and two genders by God the Son, Jesus Christ. Jesus answered and said, have you not read that he created them from the beginning, made them male and female? So here, Jesus affirms two genders, two genders only, but he also affirms the Genesis account. I never try to be more holy than God the Son. And if God the Son believes the Genesis account and the historical Adam and the historical Eve, I try not to be more intellectually sophisticated than God the Son. This affirms both the Genesis account and two genders. by the teachings of God the Holy Spirit, Ephesians 5 31. For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and shall be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh. I've never tried to be more scientifically sophisticated and intellectually mature and more holy and insightful than God the Holy Spirit. Here God the Holy Spirit affirms two genders but he also affirms the Genesis account. Praise God that it is so clear. What about the fall of man? So, what about after the fall of man? Can homosexuals argue that the imputed sin of Adam created them as homosexuals? So what we're saying here is that it's very clear here. God at creation made men male and female. But then some men argue because of the fall, people are created imperfect. Now, we're not going into the doctrine of the depravity of the sin of abortion and the murdering of unborn babies. But part of the argument for this is, well, you know, some children are born without the intellectual ability to walk or to move their limbs. They're born without the intellectual ability to advance more than just from the infant stage. And they call them retarded or deformed. Well, all man is born with needs. I was not born talking. I had the need to be able to learn to talk. I was not born able to read. I had the need to be able to learn to read. I was not born with the ability to see, except for about three or four inches, and that fuzzy. I had the need to learn to do that. I was not born with the ability to recognize that my mother was my mother, my father was my father, my brother was my brother, bananas were bananas. I had to learn that. So it is the pride of man that says that certain children who do not rise to our level of intellectual sophistication are retarded. Or the fact that I had to learn to walk, I had to learn to use my hands and feet, that some children are born without that level, are born deformed. But in God's value system, they are not. We're all born with needs, and that's why we call these children with special needs. And it grants us the ability to minister and love them all their lives, just as all people need to, in a special way. So they argue that since some people are born retarded and deformed, which they are not, that some people may be born homosexuals, which they are not. The resulting imputed sin of Adam does not affect the decision of God in terms of his creative actions at the point of conception and beyond. Human life begins, both male and female, at conception. This is a decision of God. Whether male or female, God makes this decision both in the organs he creates, male and female, and the desires he creates in terms of their ordained roles in life. Psalm 139, 13, and 14. For you formed my inward parts, you wove me in my mother's womb. God makes no mistakes. I will give thanks to you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works, and my soul knows it very well. So, our physical appearance is created by God while in the mother's womb. But not only that, our desires. Psalm 139.16, Your eyes have seen my unformed substance, and in your book were all written the days that were drained from me, when as yet there was none of them. So, God had a plan for us. Dr. Schaub is married to a wonderful woman, Linda Schaub. That was God's plan that he fall in love with her. I am married to a wonderful woman, Eleanor May. That was God's plan. My sister, she waited on God's plan for Uncle John Booker. My daughter, she waited on God's plan for my son-in-law, Jason Joy. This was all written and ordained. And God does not write out and ordain homosexual desires, lusts, marriages, and relationships. So, the fall of man does not affect God's decisions in terms of the development of our organs, our gender, our sexual organs, nor our desires. Our natural propensity and ultimate love for the spouse he will give us. From the creation of the first Adam and Eve down through the ages, God has reigned sovereign over the gender of the baby. Okay, freshman biology. Shall we go over this? A child's biological sex, male or female, is determined by the chromosome that the male parent contributes. Males have an XY chromosome. females have XX sexual chromosomes. The male can contribute the X or the Y. The female must and can only contribute one of their X chromosomes. A male infant results if the male contributes the Y chromosome. A female infant results if he, the male, contributes his X chromosome. We can note here the unjust persecution and judgment of women and wives over the years for not, quote, producing a male body. This persecution is of the world and its ignorance, the flesh and its pride, and Satan and his natural hatred of the gender of women. The fact is the male, the husband, determines the gender. The statement, you need to give me a boy this time, can only be said by the wife. Now, I never said that because I'm not ignorant. Eleanor never said it because we wanted what God gave us. But men, if you have ever intimated or said to your wife, I wanted a boy and you gave me a girl, you need to repent and ask for forgiveness. There exists no homosexual gene or chromosome or any other proof that the biological status of the homosexual is genetic. The genome study has broken down completely the gene system. No homosexual desire is of a genetic origin. There is no proof at all. Rather, it's a choice. Right now, that is one of what we call the Holy Grail, the thing which all people seek for in the scientific community. And that is the proof that homosexual desire is genetic. It's taken over the quest of the other two searches. One is the proof that evolution is true, which has not been found, and the proof of life on other planets, which has not been found. But even these pale in the depravity of the scientific community as it seeks to prove homosexuality is of genetic origin and men are born that way. While the scientific community laughs at Christians for their belief in the historical atom as unscientific, they at the same time abandon science by announcing that homosexuals are born that way. Christians accept the proven scientific biological fact of the X and Y chromosome, not only as scientific, but as scriptural. It is in accordance with the creation of God and the decision lies with God, not man. Thus, Christians are more scientific in their view of gender than non-Christians. Now, here we have a strong apologetical case. I'm going to step aside here just for a minute. We have a strong apologetical case for the Christian who argues that the Christian view of homosexuality as a choice is the compassionate view. And what I mean is, let's just talk philosophically about this. Is the Christian view that homosexuality is a sin based on choice Is it the judgmental harsh view or is the view that homosexuality is a result of the progress of evolution and it has its origins in the genetic evolution of man and woman? This former view reveals the cruelty of evolution. when it teaches that homosexuality is determined at birth. Why is that cruel? Well in the evolutionary model, what is the highest good? The highest good is the propagation of the gene pool through the survival of the fittest. That's how evolutionists say evolution takes place. If this is true, then those who practice homosexuality, if they are truly born that way, the onward march of evolution and the propagation of the gene pool and the survival of the fittest has set aside them for extinction. They are eliminated from the gene pool because they cannot propagate. Homosexual genes as a result and homosexuals as a class are destined by evolution for extinction. Now if the evolutionary model is true, then homosexuals should have long since been eliminated from the gene pool because they don't reproduce. Just as any defect which causes the species to be impotent, sterile, non-reproductive, they pass away. And we say, yes, they were eliminated by evolution. If the evolutionary model is true, then homosexuals are mutants destined to be eliminated by nature and evolution from the gene pool. We as Christians reject this view of homosexuality. Homosexuality, as taught by Holy Scripture, is a choice. Homosexuals are not mutants. They are not subspecies. Rather, they have made serious, sinful choices from which they can be delivered if they truly repent. Now which is more compassionate? In the ministry of evangelism to homosexuals, which includes repentance from the desire, the church must deal with the hypocrisy of the church's response to heterosexual sin versus homosexual sin. So one of the first things we have to do is understand the doctrine of homosexuality. It is a choice, A. B, we have to deal with the fact that homosexuals are not created that way. It's a choice. That was B. C, as the church ministers to homosexuals, it must do its own housecleaning first. While the church condemns homosexual cross-dressing, and switching of gender roles. It simultaneously turns a blind eye to the same conduct with heterosexual men and women. Men with long hair, ponytails, and braids are allowed to perform on the praise teams. The subject of men and hair is not addressed from the pulpit. Men with pierced ears, earrings, necklaces, and braids are allowed to perform on praise teams, teach Bible studies, and serve in leadership roles in the church. This subject is never addressed from the pulpit. Women with shaved heads, all are partial. Butch haircuts, hair cut to the point where they may have parts with slicked down hair, where they purposefully look like men, are allowed to serve on praise teams and in the education program. Women who dress in androgynous or masculine styles in denial of their created gender, again, are allowed to serve in praise teams. They are allowed to serve in praise teams and in educational programs. Not only that, in the church, gender roles are lost to many heterosexual congregations. as church leadership allows women to fill roles specifically limited to men. So, you can see that homosexuals say, hey, you have you have as heterosexuals blurred the lines in appearance and roles and willingly do so and affirm these decisions while condemning us. Homosexuals are correct when they say that the church has singled out homosexual sin while ignoring heterosexual sin. Of the ten gender sins the church has turned a blind eye to nine heterosexual sins and only exercises church discipline on the tenth, the homosexual sin. Number one, hair. Number two, effeminate jewelry, hair, worn by men. Shaved heads, worn by women. Number two, effeminate jewelry, as worn by men. Number three, Attire, androgynous, genderless dressing by men and women. Number four, fornication, sexual intimacy between single people. When Ellen and I would start, begin our college ministry, one of the first things she would do is meet with all the women in the ministry and me with all the men and find out who was sleeping with who. Call them to repentance or remove them from any type of leadership role or identification with the ministry unless they repented. When's the last time any youth minister in the church and his wife sorted through the youth in the ministry and found out who was sexually active and who was not and called them to repentance? Abortion, the killing of unborn babies, adultery, sexual intimacy with a married person to whom you are not married, divorce and remarried outside the exception of scripture, women and roles in the homing church, divorced and remarried men in the roles of the church. All these, although they may be given a lip service condemnation, are not disciplined in the church. And homosexualies rightly point out that it is only their sexual relationships and their transgender sins that are singled out by the church. And they know, these church members in your congregation, they know these students in your college ministry who are involved in these things. and they know your hypocrisy as you turn a blind eye. Though they are correct in pointing out this hypocrisy, the church's response should not be, well, you're right, we're being hypocritical, we'll have homosexuals in the church. It should not be capitulation, but rather a return to God's standards in regards to heterosexual conduct. Unfortunately, it is the shame of the history of the modern church, rather than returning to the scriptural standard at each stage to compromise and say, here, no further. I can remember when long hair on men was not permitted in anybody in leadership. And then it was preached against. Well, no, we're going to give on that, but we won't give up on Jewelry. Then pretty soon pastors were wearing necklaces and bracelets and having piercings. Well, we're just going to have dressed like men. And well, pretty soon women on the praise team were dressing like men. Well, about fornication among the youth. Well, pretty soon fornication, abortion, adultery, divorce, all these things became reclamation ministries rather than forbidden actions. Women in roles in the church Divorced and remarried men rose in the church. These are all now ignored. At each step there was a compromise. Till now we've come to number 10. We say, well, we will never compromise there. But the church will. You see, the last step in this degradation will be to factor in homosexual sin with the same leniency as heterosexual sin. Because why not? I recently heard of a man with a large prayer church organization meeting with large donors and leaders of his ministry, assuring him that this organization would never endorse the homosexual transgender depravity. But he can't say that with any assurance because his organization turns a blind eye to these other nine issues. The beginning of this is seen in the teaching of this organization and many churches that celibate homosexuals should be welcome in the church. Well, what's the next step? Monogamous homosexuals. Well, that's already happening in some denominations. The final step will be the conclusion that sexual sin is so compulsive for heterosexuals as well as homosexuals. We should not be judgmental. And as a number of denominations have capitulated in the area of homosexual, rather than take the stand on homosexual sin, heterosexual sin. Because that's the real area. It's not compassion. It's that if we deal with homosexuality, we will have to deal with heterosexual sin, and it's just easier to say, well, we just shouldn't judge each other. Another reason for the capitulation is money. There's only one reason why gender-specific countries capitulate to the depravity of the U.S. and European powers in the area of heterosexual gender roles and homosexual behavior, money. And that's the same reason many gender-specific ministries will capitulate money. Only ministries grounded in the sovereignty of God, the sufficiency of Christ, and the authority of the holy eternal inerrant written word will be able to stand against the spiritual blackmail of the threat of withholding funds. If we have to be pragmatic, unless we capitulate in this area, we'll lose people and people are money. Well, that's been one of the basis of the capitulation of the nine heterosexual sins, and you can expect the same thing in homosexual sins. As it pertains to the ministry of evangelism and the homosexual, the first application for the church in all ministries is to return to a high standard of moral excellence for heterosexuals, so as to present a witness and alternative for homosexuals. I say in my marriage seminar, in terms of the use of the tongue by your children. A strong argument by a mother is, you cannot speak to me that way. Have you ever heard me speak to your father that way? Do you ever hear me shout at him, be rude to him, ignore him, walk away from him and slam the door? I do not treat your father that way. You will not treat me that way. That is only an effective argument if the mother lives in a respectful, submissive relationship with her husband. Otherwise, the child is looking at her and going, yeah, I see you do it all the time. It is the same with heterosexual sin and the homosexual community. When the church says, we will not tolerate homosexual sin any more than we tolerate heterosexual sin, the homosexualist thing, oh, okay, then I get a free pass because you tolerate all heterosexual sin. The last time A heterosexual has been disciplined, refused communion, asked to step down from a position because of heterosexual sin. When we are ministering to the homosexuals, the ministry to homosexuals is exclusively evangelism. Homosexuals are not Christians. We do not fold homosexuals in the church and seek to disciple them, even if they claim to be celibate. God has given over homosexuals to the sin and depravity. Romans 1.24, God gave them over to the lust of their hearts. Romans 1.26, God gave them over to degrading passions. Romans 1, God 28, God gave them over to a depraved mind. God will not give over, give up a Christian as he has given over or given up homosexuals to sin and depravity. Romans 8 37-39 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither life, nor death, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other thing will be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus. God does not give up or give over Christians. Nothing separates them. John 10 27-30 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. And I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father who has given them to me is greater than all. No one is able to snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one. God the Father does not give over Christians to sin. God the Father does not give up on Christians. The homosexual is under the judgment of God. Romans 128, and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. know as in 1 Corinthians 6, 9, and 10, or do you not know that the unrighteous, what? They will not inherit the kingdom of God. Do not perceive, neither fornicators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revivers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. They are under the judgment of God, receiving the due penalty of their error. 1st Timothy 1.8 says, but we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully. Verse 9, realizing the fact that the law is not made for the righteous person, but those who are lawless and rebellious. And in this class, we are given homosexuals. In this class, we are given homosexuals. Leviticus 20 verse 13, if there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is on them. Now, we know in the new covenant, because of Romans 13, 1 through 5, the church does not carry out corporal punishment and legal discipline on its members, but it tells us that homosexuals are under the judgment of God. They are condemned by the law. Their blood guiltiness is upon them. The Christian is not under God's judgment. Christians need not fear the judgment of God. as do homosexuals. Romans 8.1, There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Well, John, we'll all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Yes, we will, but according to Romans 8.1, the judgment will be not guilty. For homosexuals, the judgment will be guilty. 1 John 4.18, there is no fear in love. Perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment. The one who fears is not perfected in love. And Christians who fear the judgment of God do not understand the love of God who gave His only Son, that whosoever should believe in Him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3, 16. True God may and does discipline Christians, but this is for their good. It is never punitive. It is always redemptive. What does Hebrews 12, 6 say? For whom the Lord loves, He disciplines. He does not punish in anger. Why, in verse 7, He disciplines you as sons. You are not being given over. What does verse 10 say? He disciplines us for our good that we might share in His holiness. God disciplines us for our good. When Christians sin, they need never say, what bad thing will God do to me because I've sinned? Because He always disciplines us for our good. It may be painful, but it will be for our good. The hallmark of the homosexual is that the punishment of God has resulted in the homosexual being given over to sin. God does not punish Christians, nor does he give them over to sin. The hallmark of the Christian heterosexual is that the discipline of God, which brings the Christian back to God and is a sanctifying work in the life of the Christian, for their good. Remember Hebrews 12.10, He disciplines us for our good. Why? So that we can share in His holiness. And verse 11, His discipline yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness. Now God can and does use cataclysmic events to bring His children to repentance. Luke 15.14, the prodigal son, it says a severe famine occurred. And because of this, in verse 17, he came to his senses. If this severe famine had not occurred, the prodigal son, even after he had used up his money, may have found the life of an indolent, slothful sinner more preferable than going back and working for his father and being a part of the family. But God did not lead the prodigal son into adultery, into fornication, into drunkenness, into homosexuality to bring him back to God. God used a cataclysmic event, the severe famine. God will not entice Christians to sinful acts such as homosexuality to bring them to God. James 1, 13 and 14. Let no one say that when he is tempted, I'm being tempted by God. For God cannot be tempted by evil, and he himself does not tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. God does not make people homosexuals so they will repent. The people say of alcoholics, until they hit rock bottom, they'll repent. Well, that's not true. But nor is it true of God. God will not lead a man into homosexuality to bring him back to God. Homosexuals are lost. They are depraved. They are under God's judgment. They've been given up by God for the pursuit of their degrading passions. As such, they are not Christians. As a result, the call to repentance, faith in Christ, resulting in new birth and a return to the heterosexual nature, is the sole ministry to homosexuals. 2 Corinthians 5.17, if anyone is in Christ, he's a new creature. All things have passed away. All things have become new. It's incomprehensible. that you would say, yes, he's a born-again Christian who lusts after men. He's just not doing it. She's a born-again Christian who lusts after women. She's just not doing it. No, the old is passed away. They are now heterosexual. It is a source of shame and embarrassment to the 21st century Protestant Church that there has been such a devaluing of the gospel in terms of its transforming power, the power of the cleansing blood of Christ, the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit, the power of the new and regenerated life, the power of the sanctifying work of the holy eternal inerrant written word, both in the gospel and discipleship, that the modern church does not believe the homosexual can ever be a heterosexual. As long as that is the case, celibate homosexuals will enter the church and seduce our children and abuse our children and our youth. Evangelistic ministries to homosexuals should occur outside of the church or ministry fellowship. Now, in the 20th century, the American Evangelical Church had gotten away with folding non-Christians into the fellowship of the church. Bring non-Christians to church, bring them to Sunday school, bring them to the church fellowships, let them see how church lives, become their friends, fold them into the fellowships, and we can lead them to Christ. The reason they were able to do this is the fact that non-Christians were culturally Christians in terms of their basic moral outlook. This began to change in the late 20th century as Pagan drinkers, dope smokers, drug users, adulterers and fornicators began to influence church members rather than vice versa, especially in the youth ministry. Now in the 21st century, the non-Christian community is not only blatantly secular, but openly depraved. Listen carefully. In his depravity, the homosexual longs to be loved by men. And he will find this in the setting of church fellowship. Men's ministry, where men are hugging, clasping hands in prayer, sitting in close proximity one another, They are doing this in total purity because they are mature heterosexual men. But this will be a haven for the depraved homosexual who has been divided in and has been invited in and is treated as if he was a heterosexual. Church fellowship will not redeem homosexuals but it will prove a hunting ground for their depraved lusts. The lust of the homosexual is a driving force in his life. Romans 127 says they burn in their desire for one another. The homosexual be a corrupting influence upon the church fellowship or ministry. 1 Corinthians 15.33 Do not be deceived. Bad company corrupts good morals. It's a principle of ministry. Intentional ministry ascends. Luke 6.40 Every disciple will be like his teacher. Casual fellowship descends. 1 Corinthians 15.33 Bad company corrupts good morals. That's why we must be so careful about the fellowship that we encourage in our church and ministry. Ellen and I never joined a church where the youth ministry was seen as evangelistic rather than discipleship. Some youth ministries I've spoken in are about 40% Christian and 60% outreach, and the youth minister is so excited. Well, he should be the evangelism minister, not the youth minister. Because bad company corrupts good manners, morals. You see, this is especially true but not limited to children's and youth ministry. A church or ministry will not survive the naive folding in of homosexuals and transgenders into the children and youth ministry. It will no longer survive this than is today the secular school program surviving it. Parents will no more allow their children to receive Christian education in a deprived atmosphere than they will in their secular education. I'll tell you, if I went to a church And I saw women looking like men ministering in the children's ministry. And then I went over to the youth ministry and saw, uh, you know, 5, 10% of them, obviously transgender boys dressing like girls and homosexual relationships. I wouldn't put, I wouldn't join that church. And if somebody came to me and told me your ministry or church looked like that, I would say, get out before it's too late. Application number three, men should only evangelize homosexuality through proclamation in large group setting. In other words, in an evangelistic meeting, which is impersonal. This is due to the homosexual's burning desire for men. There must be no emotional intimacy between the homosexual and the one presenting the gospel. There are a number of men who do service for us. There's an exterminator. There is a lawn man. There is a mechanic. These men are heterosexuals. They're all married. I've tried to create a friendship bridge with them for sharing the gospel and it's worked very well and I've been able to share the gospel with them. You can't do this with a homosexual. A minister, evangelist, or any Christian should no more witness and minister to a homosexual on a one-on-one basis than he should knowingly meet one-on-one with a woman who is burning in her desire to have sex with him. That's hard for heterosexuals to understand. It was a guy in the college ministry. He's a full-time staff man who insisted that he could do one-on-one evangelism with homosexuals, get to know them, become their friends. I said, they're on a date with you. Well, he almost had a psychological slash spiritual crisis when he realized that was true. But it was too late. Now they had become attached to him and were seeking him out and wanting to spend time with him and wanting to come over to his apartment and wanting to be around him. A minister, evangelist, or any Christian should no more witness and minister to a homosexual on a one-on-one basis than he should normally meet on one-on-one with a woman who is burning in her desire to have sex with him because the Bible says homosexuals are burning in their desire to have sex with men. People who should minister to homosexuals, I had a a woman doctor in Helsinki who was in her seventies who was calling homosexual men to repentance. She and her husband. Senior couples trained in evangelism and schooled in the depraved nature of homosexuals are the best approach as long as they're not enablers. People to whom the homosexual obviously would not and cannot be attracted, and vice versa. Senior couples, I mean over 65. Love is only expressed in the evangelistic relationship leading to repentance, not to permissiveness and unscriptural feeling of empathy and understanding. The goal of our ministry to homosexuals is not to create an environment where they feel safe and loved. Because that's a big deal in the church now. Let's create an environment where people feel safe and loved. We do not want homosexuals to feel safe and loved because they are involved in activities that are under God's judgment and what they call love is depravity. We want to call them to repentance and faith in Christ, resulting in their transformation into heterosexual Christians. Evangelism to homosexuals should be carried out in a gender-specific manner using gender-specific translations of the Holy Scripture. Now, Hudson Taylor opened a new world for American and European missions by making them culturally aware. Why allow cultural things to be a block to the ministry? But we do not embrace the homosexual culture to reach them because that's sin. Evangelism to homosexuals should be done in a gender specific manner. using gender-specific translations from the scripture. How can you expect a homosexual to repent from the desire and actions of homosexuality when you present the homosexual with a corrupted translation which purposefully confuses gender roles? They are gender neutral or gender negative. How can you fully expect a homosexual to embrace his new heterosexuality when he's born again, when the very copy of Holy Scriptures which you have given him to study is corrupted or hides gender-specific roles? Now, here's this homosexual. We'll call him a former. is this former repentant homosexual who is now heterosexual how can he fully embrace is new heterosexuality when the very copy of holy scriptures which you have given them to study is corrupted and hides the very gender specific roles that you want to transform as life. Get rid of your NIV. Get rid of your copy of The Message. Get rid of your RSV. Get rid of the New English Bible. Get rid of these gender neutral translations. Embrace the English Standard, the ESV, English Standard Version. Embrace the New American Standard Bible. Embrace the New King James Bible. Embrace the King James Bible, which holds to specific gender passages, so that they know how to be a heterosexual. How can a lesbian, a female homosexual, learn how to be a woman, a heterosexual woman, if the Bible you give her to use hides the fact that some things are for men and some things are for women. In the same way, evangelism to homosexuals should be carried out in a gender-specific manner by a church which honors and obeys the gender-specific roles of home and church. How can you expect a homosexual to repent of both desire and actions when the church does not present him with an alternative? Women are in the roles of men. Men are in the roles of women. How can you expect the repentant homosexual to grow in his or her new gender role and fully embrace his or her heterosexuality when the church does not offer this alternative, but specifically in areas where women are not to teach or exercise authority over men. Women are teaching and exercising authority over men. Where gender appearance is specifically taught, gender appearance is specifically ignored. Where the roles of the husband in the home and wife are reversed. What are we offering them? How can there, there can be and there must be total repentance and receiving Christ unto the new birth before the now born again heterosexual can be admitted to the church. From the very beginning, the homosexual must understand that this is the goal, his rebirth in Christ, resulting and returning to heterosexual desires, which he laid aside. I was once, uh, ministering to a drunkard and he used to tell me, you know, John, why don't you know, if Jesus would only help me get back to the beginning where I could just enjoy a beer or a mixed drink in the evening with my wife and friends. And, you know, it was such, and I say, no. No. You're going to repent and be born again and never drink again. The goal is not to get drunk with wine but it not control you. The ministry of the church will be to the newly reborn heterosexual, not to the celibate homosexual. though not acting on his depraved mind, is still burning in his desire for men. Remember, such were some of you doctrine. It is possible to no longer be effeminate or homosexual. The homosexual has not repented as long as he is blaming his condition on God, like Adam who blamed God, the woman you gave me, The homosexual blames God, the desires you gave me. The homosexual must confess his choices in both desire and action and repent as 1 Corinthians 7 says, repent without regret. The church must face head on the fact that the homosexual has not repented from the depraved nature of his desires simply because at this time he's not acting out on them. The problem that naive youth ministers, church leaders, and church members face in seeking to minister one-on-one homosexuals is the same that currently exists in the same process in the heterosexual community when men minister to women one-on-one and women minister to men one-on-one, that being they're on a date. When I was a high school teacher in Austin and involved in the Navigator ministry and one-on-one ministry was really stressed, it was a hobby horse that people pretty much told me to quit preaching that these married men cannot meet with married women one-on-one or single women one-on-one to disciple them. And sure enough, Sexual immorality and divorce began to occur in those slices of the ministry where this was practiced. You meet together, you buy coffee or a soft drink, you share a meal or a snack, you relate intimately over the word of God, you open yourself up as rarely if ever you do. That's a date. That's what Eleanor and I did when I was courting her. If this occurs between two heterosexual males, it's a one-on-one ministry. If it occurs between a heterosexual male and heterosexual female, it's a date. If it occurs between a heterosexual male and a homosexual male, it may be a ministry to the heterosexual, but the homosexual is on a date and enjoying it. And, and you are creating expectations, which you cannot morally fulfill. It is almost impossible for the heterosexual man to comprehend the fact that when he meets one-on-one with a homosexual male, that in the eyes of the homosexual, they are on a date because this is repugnant to the heterosexual. Same being true of the homosexual female meeting with a heterosexual female. The homosexual is lusting, fantasizing, and hoping the relationship will evolve into a homosexual encounter. The heterosexual may think that they are administering, but they are on a date with a man who is burning in his desire for them. The ministry to the homosexual is exclusively evangelistic and it is done with total repentance and a return to heterosexuality through new life in Christ as the stated goal. The ministry takes place outside the church or ministry fellowship activities. This ministry cannot take place on a one-on-one basis. But all ministries must be organized that the homosexual has no opportunity to expect anything but the gospel and the call to repentance. May God add his blessing to his holy work. In Christ's name we pray.