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Here we go, Christian Manifesto. A fairly short critique, but
wow. I'm inclined to say that it's
an appropriate metaphor to describe this as a case of taking Schaefer
to the woodshed. Do you have that expression in
California, Leland? Not since about 1963. Oh, well. California is very progressive
that way. So this is a critique that bites pretty hard. I would
even say that it's unnecessarily sarcastic at times. I don't want
to say that they're necessarily enjoying what they're doing,
but obviously they take considerable exception to the way Schaefer
has presented his argument here, even saying that we would have
kept to ourselves if it hadn't been for the popularity of the
book. So the book ends up selling over 300,000 copies and at this
point they can't contain their criticism. So here we go. The gist of it is that they say
there's a need for consistency in the theology of Christian
resistance. And by the way, you just have a PDF which is a small
part But here is the volume that that came from and this is one
of several volumes in this Christianity and Civilization series that's
edited by Gary North. It's out there for what that's
worth. If you like what they said here,
then you're probably going to like what else they say. It's
obvious from the comments that they make in this critique where
they stand in terms of their views of theocracy and Christian
reconstruction. So that's going to be the framework. You can also tell from what they've
said that they're pretty strong supporters of Cornelius Van Til's
apologetic. That's just a little bit that
I've read. If you know about Gary North, he was an extraordinarily
prolific writer before his death, and I think he only died just
a year or so ago, so fairly recently. So, you'll see in your notes
I have used the shorthand N-slash-C to refer to North and Children.
that they're so concerned about this that they feel compelled
to speak and they want to see consistency and they don't think
Schaefer meets the standard. They say that being at war with
humanism requires getting our offensive and defensive strategies
agreed upon before entering into the battle. And to that I could
add in my own sarcasm, what are the chances of that happening?
They say that Schaeffer's books simultaneously soften and toughen
up Christians. And that he offers Christians
little or no hope in their ability to do anything substantial to
reverse the drift of humanism over the falls. And they seem
to be tying this idea to what they would describe as Schaeffer's
pessimistic eschatology. Oh, but they have such an optimistic
eschatology. Yes and I'm still waiting for
some of that optimism to start working its way out. I think
it'll get you killed quicker. Well, there's probably that. and then Jesus will return. Or
Schaeffer's historic premillennial. That too. Yeah, so I left off
one of the premillennial views, but if you're not with them,
you're the problem. You kind of get that from the
tone of this critique, don't you? Yes, I do. It's like, yeah,
again, how do you expect to build a consensus around this? At times
it's just very, well, they would agree that it's confrontational.
It's like the PhD ivory tower, us and only us mentality has
spilled over on some of the body of Christ. Oh, I'm sure that's
the case. Everybody in his individual camp
is going to feel pretty justified about his own camp's particular
beliefs. So again, as we think about criticism,
critiques, that's part of what we're going to run into. Everybody
is going to bring a certain bias to their critiques of someone
else. But as they say, turnabout is fair play, so we'll have that
in mind. They say that his writings have
exposed the intellectual weakness of humanism and that this is
probably his most important contribution but he expects victory only in
the return of Christ to establish the Millennium. They say that his books are liabilities
as training manuals for the battle. That Schaefer does not answer
the questions that he raises. And it's hard for me to disagree
because Having read Christian Manifesto several times, and
then reading it again a few weeks ago, and then going back and
looking at Randy's book, Death in the City, the contrast was
so striking that I really thought it was valuable for us to spend
some more time on Death in the City, because here he is in 1969
speaking with remarkable clarity about the condition of the nation,
where things are going, and so forth. And then when you put
Christian Manifesto next to that, it just feels like it doesn't
quite deliver the goods. It comes across as a little too
conciliatory. And I think we'll find some agreement
here with Gary North and David Chilton. Another criticism they raise
is that when Schaefer does have answers, those answers appear
to come from those who are not properly credited. And again,
this can be in the general category of criticizing Schaeffer as not
being a scholar because he's not necessarily footnoting all
of his statements. And remember, most of his early
books came from what? is lectures. So lectures that
were developed over sometimes many years and refined and turned
into books. They didn't start out as books,
they started out as lectures and that can be part of the explanation
for why they're not footnoted. So, Christian Manifesto could be
described as the American apostasy from Christianity into Humanism
and the grievous effects that that has had on all areas of
life. North and Chilton say, in both intention and act, and
this is them describing him, that the Founders established
the United States as a Christian nation. Now, Schaeffer repeatedly
denies theocracy as a solution, but he never answers the question
of what ought to take its place. What are the options? And why
does the word theocracy make us uncomfortable? Well, I think it's because we
realize if we talk theocracy to the world, they're going to
come for us. We're getting there. We're getting
there. Right? And this is part of what
we have to think about in terms of apologetics and part of cultural
engagement. It's not really a question of
religious versus secular. It's religion versus religion.
And it always was. But what does the secularist
want to paint the difference as? You've got your religion. We have our truth. whatever the
basis may be, science or what have you. And putting those things against
each other as if it's religion versus everything else. Or religion
versus reason. It's probably what a lot of it
might come down to. It's not that he didn't believe
in prayer or teaching prayer, but in public settings or public
schools, that wasn't necessarily a good solution. Yeah, it would
be very easy to turn that into a pagan prayer rather than a
Christian prayer. So this is kind of what's behind
the tension here. We're going to have some kind
of of structure or system. The question is where is it going
to come from? And so Schaeffer doesn't want to say that theocracy
is the solution. So North and Chilton answer by
this, for us the question is not theocracy or no theocracy,
but increasingly whose theocracy is it going to be? They also point out that the
Reformed Confessions, and I took out the part where he said before
they were butchered, the Reformed Confessions recognized the scriptural
demand for the Christianization of all culture. And that was
in their original forms before they were modified. And where
are most of the modifications, for example, in the Westminster
Confession? Chapter 23, The Civil Magistrate.
They don't call the Pope the Antichrist anymore. Yeah, that
part was taken out. I guess we're trying to be a
little nicer. Yeah. But the big change had to do
with those portions that described the responsibilities of the state.
And when were the modifications made? After the Revolution? Or around
that time? Maybe before? Maybe. 1788. Yeah. Okay, there you go. And it had to do with the American,
you know, autonomy from Britain and making it palatable to Americans
in their form of government. Yeah, so we were in one sense
abolishing the state as the head of the church, but on the other
hand going in a different direction, going in the direction of pluralism,
which is what we'll be talking a little more about. So, in the text there they reference
the original version of the Belgian Confession and the original Westminster
Confession that includes the duties of the state for suppressing
idolatry Does that make you a little uncomfortable? I just think of Dutch iconoclasts
tearing down statues in Catholic churches when you say that. So let me read a portion of this.
From the Belgian Confession in 1561, the duties of civil rulers
include this. Their office is not only to have
regard unto and watch for the welfare of the civil state, but
also that they protect the sacred ministry, and thus may remove
and prevent all idolatry and false worship, that the kingdom
of Antichrist may thus be thus destroyed and the kingdom of
Christ promoted. Wonderful. You know, that reminds
me of a Louis Armstrong song called What a Wonderful World
It Would Be. He was probably talking about
something else. The original Westminster Confession,
and I'll read the middle portion here, referring to the civil
magistrate having authority, that all blasphemies and heresies
be suppressed, all corruptions and abuses in worship and discipline
prevented or reformed, and all the ordinances of God duly settled,
administered, and observed. Now how startling is that compared
to what we're used to? and especially in our American
way of thinking which is pluralistic. Which we have this idea of the
freedom of religion that not only the state does not establish
a religion but that it shall not prevent the free exercise
thereof. It doesn't specify Christianity.
So Christianity can be in the mix and that'll be part of the
the argument here that North and Chilton are making. That
essentially Schaeffer is just arguing for Christianity to have
a seat at the table. Now they also mention Samuel
Rutherford. That was a big part of Schaeffer's argument in quoting
Lex Rex. But what they say of Rutherford
is that he was a theocrat, and we also know that he was a member
of the Westminster Assembly, so he had a hand in crafting
those confessions, that confession, in that particular way, that
Schaefer professes to follow him, but by explicitly rejecting
theocracy, he's denying Rutherford's true position. Has anybody read
Lex Rex, by the way? Only snippets. Yeah, it's about that thick. It's a pretty considerable volume.
I should say, you know, it depends on how small the print is. The
copy that we have here in the library is pretty thin. You think,
oh, that's no problem. Except it's like micro print. The reprints are considerably
thicker. So it's a large work and a considerable
one. They say that Schaeffer has been
reading Rush Dooney for more than 20 years, and that it's
one of the most well-kept secrets in modern evangelicalism. Wow. Maybe a little sarcasm there.
There's no footnotes. What now? There's no footnotes. Yeah, so
they go on and describe part of how they deduce those. In
a comparison between a portion of text from Rushduni and Schaeffer
that they put side by side here, we see the parallels between
those two texts. And Schaeffer appeals to one
of Rushduni's sources, a man named Francis Legge, who is not
theocratic, and he doesn't mention that he's basically passing through
Rush Dooney's work to get to this reference to Francis Legge. And at some point we start to
suspect a little bit of subterfuge. We might ask, what are you trying
to hide? If Rush Dooney has been an important influence, why not
say so? And perhaps it's because that
Rush Duny is a more explicit theonomist. And Schaeffer's trying
to avoid that. What'd you say? He's an explicit
what? Theonomist. What does that mean?
Theocracy. Yeah. Same idea as theonomy. The idea that it is God's law
that rules through the state. And besides Rush Dooney, Schaefer
is indebted to Cornelius Van Til, but interestingly never
cites his work. So I know that Schaefer was under
Van Til at Westminster for a couple of years. Schaefer has stated
that Van Til was a big influence on him. And as we draw the conclusion
of the class in a few weeks, we're going to be looking at
Van Til's critique of his former student. North and Chilton say that the
leaders of the New Christian Right are getting much of their
material, their insights, even their slogans from the Christian
Reconstructionists. And there was a video, a LaBrie
conference video on YouTube that I saw a portion of it in a question
and answer session. I think it was a 1983 LaBrie
conference. where someone from the audience
asked Schaefer if he was a Reconstructionist. And his answer was very bizarre.
He said, I don't even know what that means. It was a way of just
kind of dismissing the question. So it's a little strange. It
seems that he wants to distance himself from the idea of being
a Reconstructionist or a theonomist, but he still is drawing from
some principles there, or trying to. you don't bring home to mom.
I guess not. Now, when you say we find that
statement dubious, do you find the statement dubious? Yes, I'm
using the royal we. Okay. Well, you're entitled,
but, excuse me, I was just trying to clarify that, whether it was
you or Hennessey. Yeah, I've thrown a few of my
own commentaries in there. It's hard to imagine that someone
as well read as Schaeffer would not know what it means to be
a Reconstructionist. North and Chilton say this, the
leaders of the new Christian right are needlessly avoiding
controversies concerning one of the three vital pillars of
a consistent Christian apologetic, namely biblical law. And they say that Schaeffer is
straddling the fence. He is trying to reject neutrality
on the one hand, and he's trying to reject theocracy on the other. North and Chilton say that the
lowest common denominator principle of pluralism is what got us into
this mess in the first place. Dr. Schaeffer's manifesto offers
no prescriptions for Christian society. and that because of
his pre-millennial views he doesn't expect to win the battle before
the return of Christ. Now does that make sense? We
could ask the question this way, what was he expecting in what
he was saying? Why write what he was writing
and say the things that he said if he wasn't expecting some kind
of an improvement back in the direction of what he likes to
call the Christian consensus? True. But I also see on the other
side of it with North and his cohorts that there is a mistrust
in the total sovereignty of God. On Schaeffer's part? No, on their
part, on North's part. Because, oh, this optimistic
escapology is what's going to put the church over. And we're
going to slide right into an unliteral the church does and
how we Christianize the world. We're going to bring this realization
of Christ in a coming and then he's going to come back again
literally, but this is something that bases it more on what we
do than the hidden plan of God. He knows I kind of get that impression
from what they're saying and especially when we get a little
further along to talk about their notion of how to build a theocracy,
it raises some interesting questions. So yeah, the question is whether
they are trusting in the sovereignty of God as much as they claim
to be if they think that so much of what has to happen is going
to be based on human efforts. Is that what you're saying? That's
exactly what I was trying to say. Let's see, so Schaeffer
argues for pluralism under the first amendment where quote reformation
christianity would have a chance to compete in the free marketplace
of ideas to which north and chilton state that religious competition
is not a commercial activity okay well we agree with that
But then the question is, how much religious liberty should
there be? And that's where the arguments are probably going
to run aground. Because the way the Constitution
is framed, it allows the practice of religious freedom. So naturally
you're going to have a culture with pluralism. North quotes from an article
that uh... he previously wrote before publishing
this where he says that uh... well let me back up a second
that when Schaeffer argues against theocracy and for religious liberty
he is advocating for neutrality so when he argues for theocracy
against theocracy and for religious liberties advocating for neutrality
in other words if if we can just make the the marketplace of ideas
neutral, so that it's not favoring one thing or another, then Christianity
will have a chance to win. On the other hand, that any argument
against neutrality is an argument for theocracy. So they're basically
saying that it's either one or the other. North says that everyone
uses the neutrality doctrine in order to create his own version
of theocracy. So let's ask the question this
way, in the general sense of the word, is American government
a theocracy? No. Depends on whose definition you're
using. If you're using North's definition, yes. If you're using
the normal civil definition of government, no. And why is that? Why is there that difference? It's more based on a naturalistic
theology. It's not quite an anthropocracy,
but we have a lot of natural theology built into the Declaration
that point to nature as God, but not per se the God of the
Bible. The question is this, whether
anybody is really religiously neutral, No, if the answer is... By putting,
excuse me, by putting that forward, the ant, like, I just watched
an anarchist yesterday, two pro-lifers at a very prominent university
trying to give a speech on pro-life and some solutions to what people
consider but they shouted these people
down, they committed active violence. This is how the world responds
to this fair market version Schaffer's talking about. There's no place
for our voice in that world anymore. So how would we describe then
that other side that doesn't want to even allow Christianity
to have a voice in society? How would we describe it? We
would, I mean, we would describe, I mean, I have a more raw word
for it. I call it the kingdom of darkness.
The kingdom of what? The kingdom of darkness. Isn't
it a religious view? Right, it is. It is a religious
view. So, even if you say, I'm an atheist,
I don't believe in God, I don't believe in religion, You have
just stated your religious creed when you said that. I believe
and unbelieve. Yeah. And this is part of the point
of North and Chilton in this portion of their book. That you
can't get away from religion. It's not a question of whether
we're going to have a theocracy or not, it's only a question
of what kind of theocracy are we going to have because those
who are running it are going to use that as an opportunity
to express their religious beliefs. So that's the dilemma. North and Chiltern are going
to propose three possibilities here, and again a little sarcasm.
First of all, that he's actually a closet theocrat. Secondly,
that he's a closet neutralist. Or a third, that he's a schizophrenic. And here's where I think they
might be a little over the top in terms of their rhetoric. They make the comparison to the
Communist Manifesto, which in its writing was explicitly revolutionary. It spelled out the plan for the
revolution of the communist agenda. And then likewise, they mentioned
the Humanist Manifestos, which would include, at this time of
writing, the first two from 1933 and 1973, that those manifestos
contain a plan of action, something that you can get your teeth into.
They make a reference in this book to a Christian manifesto
of 1984 by someone named Nigel Lee. I did not take the time
to read that. I did scan it just a bit. Well, it's in this volume. Oh, okay. Nigel Lee in its entirety? Yeah. They include it in their
book. If you say the word, I might
be able to arrange for that to magically appear in canvas. Alright, I have to read it first. I have to read everything first
to make sure I'm not giving you anything crazy. They say that
with Nigel Lee's Christian Manifesto, quote, you could raise an army. Yeah, I think Saul Alinsky would
be proud of that kind of revolutionary language. In addition to the
Great Commission. Yeah, we'll kind of tack it on
there. They see weaknesses of the Christian
Manifesto as part of a pattern of weaknesses and apologetics
generally following these things, that there's a failure to get
away from that common ground philosophy, the idea that we
just need to relate to man where he is, a failure to recognize
the eschatological implications of the gospel's power to transform
culture. I think that's what Leland was
just referring to there. The Great Commission may do much
of that work and certainly has to be necessary. And then thirdly,
a failure to use biblical laws, the basis for both personal and
social reconstruction. And here they add that Schaeffer's
Calvinism is compromised by his unwillingness to mention predestination. Now Schaefer was ostensibly a
Calvinist. He went to Westminster Seminary
and then followed that with Faith Theological Seminary, both of
which used the Westminster Standards. He was certainly not unfamiliar
with the Westminster Standards from his early days in training
as a pastor. So he was part of denominations
that relied on that standard. He couldn't say that he didn't
know what was in there and predestination is obviously part of that. We
kind of suspect that it was a case, especially later in his life,
that he may have toned down the message a little bit in the hopes
of reaching a wider audience and being able to communicate
his message without causing offense to certain people who don't necessarily
adhere to the Calvinistic doctrines. Thank you. As long as it says
it's still recording, we're good to go. So we can carry on. They say that the three weaknesses
lead to three disastrous conclusions within the sphere of political
theory. One is religious pluralism. The second is freedom to preach
personal salvation, but not social reconstruction, and satisfaction
with natural law. And they say we can summarize
these three political goals in one phrase, equal time for Jesus. So again, they're direct and
a little bit sarcastic in how they deal with it. So this prevalent idea that Christianity,
if we can get it out of the marketplace of ideas, it'll be shown to be
the best alternative, they say is a view which Cornelius Van
Til showed is inconsistent with the Bible, and that he fought
against that his whole life, that it denies the absolute authority
of Christ. And this was Van Til's criticism
of all the rationalistic apologetic methods. Now they mention a guy
named Herbert Schlossberg. Has anybody heard of him? Because
his name was new to me. We used his book in Worldviews. Oh we did? I believe so, yes. Okay. I must have slept through
that part or maybe that was... Randy says no. Carry on, I'll
be right back. No, it was another Dutchman,
I believe it was Slas. Anyway, here's a guy who's a
historian, and he writes the following, that the struggle,
well this is his summary, that the struggle between religious
and secular is really the struggle between religions. quote, in
the most basic sense, there is no such thing as a secular culture.
And he's saying that not to call for a religious war, but to point
out that the war is already underway. And maybe we're just now starting
to figure that out. I looked him up in the library
and we have, yeah, there it is, Idols for Destruction. So we
have that in our library along with three or four other books
that he's written if you're interested in following up on that. So that
he wrote in 1983. And it looks pretty extensive.
I was looking at the index and thinking, wow, he covers a lot
of ground in that book. So North and Chilton say, quote,
the religious pluralism allowed in the West from about 1648 on
was possible only because the two warring sides were Christian
in their perspective. The humanists were isolated in
the 17th century. And they argue that the humanists
were chiefly found in Italy and France. So Schaeffer's apologetic
has never made a clean break with the rationalist or the evidentialist. And part of our reading for next
week will be kind of pinpointing Schaeffer's apologetic methodology. And it's going to land in the
category of evidentialism. So they described theocracy not
as a top-down system, but as a bottom-up system. It is not
a centralized kind of control. But a decentralized control,
they say, quote, that it's self-government under the law of God. And that
as self-disciplined Christians are brought under the law of
God, the institutions will follow. So they mention the institutions
of family, of church, of business and government. And then as for
government that they say, that influence starts locally and
then moves up to the central government. They mentioned what
they call the doctrine of interposition, which they describe as a reliance
on local agencies to challenge the authority of central government. which sounds a lot like the doctrine
of lesser magistrates, but with a twist because it's not confined
just to the civil authorities at the lower levels. How do they
do it? Okay, I tried to follow this.
They say you're beginning with yourself. You learn biblical
law. Then you're going to vote in terms of biblical law. Then
when you're called to serve on a jury, you can use jury nullification
as a tool And that's where I put the ellipsis because I lost the
strategy after that point. I'm not quite sure what's next. They say that theocracy is government
by God's law, not just in the realm of civil government, but
all government. And I'm pretty sure what they
mean by that is recognizing that there's more than one authority
structure that God has established. So we mentioned that a minute
ago. First of all, family. That also includes church and
business, as well as government. What becomes the problem in our
present society where we start to think that government can
do everything and should? What happens to the other authorities?
They faint or they're pushed out. Yeah, the word steamrolled
comes to mind. And the civil government was
never designed by God to be absolute. Christians must learn to resist
what they call theocratic humanism. which is already the dominant
religion in the West. Quote, theocratic humanism is
a system of rule by a tiny minority of humanists over a vast majority
of confused, intellectually compromised, Leland, hesitant Christians. Okay. I'm picking on you. Are you trying to describe me? I was picking on you, or trying.
So, casting expersions I see. Intellectually compromised. So,
here I'm going to have to side with Schaefer. Did you just make
an obscene gesture? No. Me? No. No, I put my hand over my forehead
and I shook my head. Just checking. No, I have not
given the unholy It's been a long, long time since I've been to
church. I retract that accusation then. Maybe it was a facepalm. Here's where I have to side with
Schaefer because by the late 60s, he was already saying that
as Christians we need to realize we are already an absolute minority
in society. We may see, we might look around
and see our neighbors going to church on Sunday, but that doesn't
make them Christian. I could put it like this. If
it were the case that Christians still had an absolute majority
in this country, would we be seeing the kind of chaos that
we're seeing today? And I think the answer is no,
or at least probably much less of it. So we're already a minority
and yet North and Chilton are taking the position that the
problem is not that we don't have enough Christians, they're
just not doing what they need to be doing. Rush Duny says this in reference
to his commentary on the book of Daniel. If the victory of
Christ is to be eschatological only, and in terms only of an
eternal order, then the book of Daniel is a monstrous piece
of irrelevance. I'm not sure what to add to that. That's probably about right.
Okay. Obviously, we're getting into some strong differences or ideas
about eschatology and what that implies and how that fits into
the picture. Personally, I think it's just adding to my own confusion
on the topic. North and Chilton say that our
apologetic methodology must reflect the all or nothing nature of
the confrontation between God and Satan. And their criticism of Schaeffer
is that for him the sovereignty of God is not the bedrock of
his writings in philosophy. And that he's avoiding the confrontation
that he needs to have with the humanists by rejecting the common
ground philosophy and the fundamentalists who are going to be put off by
his Calvinism if he puts it on his sleeve. So we need a confrontational
theology that presses the dichotomy between Christ or chaos, God's
law or tyranny. And I don't disagree with the
dichotomy that they're presenting there. There may be a spectrum
in terms of whether things are generally better or worse, but
that's still scripturally how we understand that since the
garden and since the fall, there has been enmity between the seat
of the man, the seat of the woman, and the seat of the serpent.
So we are in a spiritual war. They mentioned four doctrines
that are essential to our success. The first is God's sovereignty.
The second is the sufficiency of scripture, which they say
gives us a presuppositional apologetic. Thirdly, an optimistic eschatology.
And fourthly, the binding nature of biblical law. And they say that the Christian
social alternative must be the goal of any serious Christian
resistance movement. So, pretty strong critique. Quick takeaways, pluses or minuses. I have a question first. So the way that they're defining
it, remember they're describing a bottom-up model for theonomy,
theocracy. So it starts with the individual,
and then it works its way from the individual through the various
institutions. And the institutions include
family, church, business, and government. The idea behind the
doctrine of lesser magistrates is that in the civil sphere,
and we can use our own case as an example, we have a federal
government. then we also have state governments,
and then we have local governments, such as cities, municipalities,
we have county governments, there are many layers of government
authority. And if one of those higher magistrates
is doing something he shouldn't be doing, then instead of taking
up arms against the government, we go to the lesser magistrates
who are there in part to help hold the higher magistrates accountable. I would put it like this, to
bring it into the present context, I suspect that the best chance
for America to survive is for our county sheriffs to exercise
the authority that they have to defend the Constitution as
the elected law enforcement officers of more than 3,000 counties. That's the idea of the Doctrine
and Blessing of Magistrates. And what North and Chilton seem
to be doing is just expanding that a little bit by saying it's
not just in the sphere of civil government, but any of those
spheres can take part in this kind of a bottom-up approach. That's how I understand it. And
a four instance that would come to mind is you going and speaking
to the local school board and saying, I don't like what you're
teaching my children in this school. So there's a place for
that kind of activism. I would say there's a place and
think about what's happened just within the last week with Anheuser-Busch
and Nike. and certain endorsements that
they have just gotten or spokes, I don't even know the proper
word to use for their representative. So many companies right now are
caving in to the pressure to show some compliance with the
agenda of certain groups. And at some point... Those groups
feed us to death. Yeah, and they're not going to
stop. So the question is, then, when does a company, a CEO, or
a board of directors say, we're not going to do that? I think
that would fit into the kind of category of resistance that
we're describing here. Well, it's going to take a while,
because what happened at the Presbyterian Church with the nine, or the,
was it nine? Nine people killed? Six. Oh,
yeah. Six. Three adults. Okay, so the
way the press took that was that they deserved it. You know, because
the Christians agitate the transgender community. The shooter was the
hero in that story. Maybe he took it that way. It's so upside down. It's mind-boggling. Alright, last questions or comments.
How do you deal with a society like that? It's wholly sick on
the deaf. Yeah, and here's where we would
say, and maybe I can wrap it up with something like this,
that the only solution to what we're seeing is the gospel, because
only the gospel has the power to change men's hearts. And so
part of what you get a little bit in Schaeffer, and what I'm
not seeing a lot of here in North and Chilton, is the priority
of preaching the gospel. We have to get back to the basics
because that is what changes men from the inside. Well, we're
really not getting that as a major thing from the churches either. No, we're not. That's a very
valid point. And that's where it should start.
That's where it should start. Or where we would certainly expect
to find it if we go looking for it. The churches are afraid to
speak anymore most of the time. So there's a fear of speaking.
And part of that, I would say, there's a fear from the congregation,
from the inside, as well as a fear of culture on the outside. And
especially if you build your ministry around a corporate model,
where bigger is always better, the minute you start speaking
the truth, it's gonna hurt the bottom line. So there's a danger
there. We've modeled too much of the
church around the idea that bigger is better and the church growth
is measured in terms of visible things and not the invisible
work of the spirit and the lives of the congregation. So let's
bring it to a conclusion here. I need to end this class so we
can get ready for the next one. Let me pray as we come to a conclusion. Father, we thank you again for
the time that we have in these studies and pray that you would
apply them to our hearts, help us to understand with our minds,
and have discernment and wisdom in the manner in which we go
about our work in the ministry. In Christ's name, amen. Amen.
Schaeffer Lecture 10B: Critique of A Christian Manifesto
Series Apologetics of Schaeffer
Lecture for ST 540 The Apologetics of Francis Schaeffer, New Geneva Theological Seminary, Colorado Springs.
| Sermon ID | 6823158261015 |
| Duration | 50:52 |
| Date | |
| Category | Teaching |
| Language | English |
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