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Richard Radio begins in three,
two, one. To convince a child to keep walking,
try switching roles with them. Let the child play the role of
the parent. They'll immediately do what you want them to do.
You are raising in your home people that the Bible is very
clear about their status. They need to be converted. not just
a conformity of their behavior. They need a transforming encounter
with the gospel of Jesus Christ. That is the ultimate priority.
It's time for Wretched Radio with Todd Friel. It's about time! Amen? Let's go talk about the
book we all read. ♪ You know they're dangerous ♪
♪ Take a look, it's in our book ♪ ♪ So many books, so little
time ♪ This is Amen Wretched Radio, thrilled to pieces, amen. To finally announce, amen, it
is here. Why do you keep amening? I'm
sorry, what? Why do you keep saying amen?
Have I been saying amen a lot? A little bit. Oh, I know what
happened. I watched an episode of Joseph
Prince. Amen. Wow, does he amen a lot. It's his little, it's his um,
it's his placeholder. It's his whatever little tick
that you use to find your way. By the way, I've noticed a tick,
and I use it too. You maybe do also. You can run
parallel thoughts in your brain. You can be speaking and kind
of getting your mental act together. And we do that sometimes with
lifts, when you just need a little time. For instance, if I said,
I'm going to set up camp here, that would be enough for you
to understand exactly what I'm talking about. I'm going to build
a fire and I'm going to make sure that the tent has a pad
underneath it. In other words, I start giving
a bunch of details about the camp that are unnecessary. So why do I list them? Because
it gives me the mental time to figure out what's coming next. Amen. Don't know why turned on
the TV. And there was Joseph Prince,
who, by the way, this is, um, this is really quite interesting.
I suspect now I didn't go take a look at their numbers. I didn't
get into their financial statement, but I suspect the line item for
hair care products exceeds Fortis Institute's entire budget. That's
all I'm saying here. Furthermore, by the way, Jimmy
looks like you got a haircut and you trim that beard of yours.
You were looking like a mountain Yeah, I did. I finally did. Mrs. Hicks said, that's enough. Well,
she didn't say that's enough, but she said, thank you so much
after I did it. There it is. I'm going to be
getting one of those one of these days as soon as I can get to
a barber, which won't cost nearly as much as Joseph Prince hairstylist. You see, some of us have barbers
and that's the way it should be. If you're a man and you're
going to a hairstylist, you need to rethink some things. You need
to start going to a barber and let him cut your hair, not style
your hair. And if you're by that, you'd
say, I don't know the difference. Here it is. If when they're done
cutting your hair, they say, would you like me to use some
product? Just get out, just tear that thing off that robe and
get out the door as fast as you can and find yourself a barber
pole and get your hair cut. where they'll drop a comb on
the floor and just keep on using it. That's the way a man gets
his hair cut. Joseph Prince spends a lot of
time getting manicures, getting his hair cut, and getting his
face lifted, amen, so that he can become fabulously wealthy.
You say, well, that's kind of impugning the man's integrity.
No, that's rightly identifying an individual who is a false
teacher. This is a man who is confused
and who is misleading people for the sake of wealth. He's
a word-faith preacher. He's a prosperity preacher. And
if you still are reticent, I say reticent, to judge anybody, please
consider the words of Jesus in Matthew chapter 23. Please read
it. In fact, I'll give you a little
challenge. You're looking for something to read in the Bible
so that it kind of engages you. Well, here's a couple of challenges
where you can run parallel thoughts as you're reading through it.
Ask yourself the question in Matthew chapter 23, when Jesus
is woeing the Pharisees, was that judgmental? Was he judging
people? And the answer is absolutely.
But simultaneously ask yourself the question, what was his tone?
That's always difficult to assess because reading the printed word,
unless the author says he was saying it like this, You're on
a bit of shaky ground. Nevertheless, I do think that
the text itself reveals the heart of Jesus in woeing the Pharisees. It wasn't a gleeful woeing. It was a broken-hearted woeing. Because these false teachers,
I'm telling you, I can't say this on totally solid biblical
grounds, but when you consider how hot hell is gonna be for
some versus others, because there will be different temperatures
in hell, there will be some cottages that are closer to the lake of
sulfur than others. Who's gonna get the hot house?
And the answer, I think, is false teachers. You can't read Matthew
23 without recognizing God really hates hypocrisy, false teachers,
and systems that put a yoke on people's back. And that describes
Joseph Prince. So I'm watching him to kind of
see where's he at these days. And I think, Jimmy, when you
look this up, Joseph Prince, I think he's 60. And he basically
looks like he's about 12, because he's probably got one of those
baby faces anyway, but he just got it pulled back so tightly
that he looks like he's about 12. And I couldn't help but notice
he's into a new bag. A number of years ago, this is
gonna sound like a discursus that is going way far away, but
a number of years ago, I remember talking to Dr. John MacArthur,
from whom we will hear in a moment, and I asked him about a gospel
presentation that I saw and heard Benny Hinn give. It was magnificent. It was loaded with the covenant
and the blood propitiation. I mean, he was just, it's like,
whoa. That was amazing. And I said
to Dr. MacArthur, what was that? How
do you harmonize Benny Hinn being one of the chief prosperity preachers
and a good gospel presentation? And very few sentences stick
with you for life. This one did. Dr. MacArthur said,
it's just a shtick. Oh. Manzilla and I recall Joseph
Prince the last time I had checked in on him. He actually looked
older then than he does today The hair was still amazing, but
he just keeps getting younger and younger and a number of years
ago He was he was really he was hyper gracing At least he was
tiptoeing near it, if not crossing the line. It was all about the
grace, the grace, the groovy, groovy grace, and about forgiveness. And it wasn't all wrong, but
it was his shtick. And I noticed that his current
shtick is, get ready for this. Biblical counseling, biblical
counseling. He's discovered it. It is clear.
He even used the term root and fruit. And it's clear to me that
Joseph Prince has stumbled into another shtick. And on the one
hand, I would say, well, he made a good choice because he recognizes
that people are hurting. and that they're depressed and
anxious and fearful and lonely. He's no dodo. In fact, I think
he's actually a pretty smart guy. I don't know how well he
knows his biblical languages, but he's more than a little acquainted
with them, and he knows enough to see what the needs of people
are and address them, which As another discursus, this is why
the seeker-sensitive movement should agitate us because they've
robbed us of something called, get ready for this, felt needs.
You hear that word, I hear that word, and it's like, whoa! Oh, no, you don't. We're not
seeker-sensitive. We don't address felt needs.
We should. Because people have them, now
you don't elevate it to the level of the gospel. Nevertheless,
we should identify that people are struggling with something
and preach the word to help them with it. Joseph Prince, he's
on to that. And so he's littered his sermons
with biblical language lingo. And I will say this, amen, it
was a total dog's breakfast, amen. It was all over the place
and ultimately unhelpful. And then they go to the glitzy
commercials to sell you his book and resources, et cetera. And
it broke my heart because a lot of people follow this guy, especially
in light of A new book! That's right, we're actually
getting to the premise of this segment. A new book, Dr. Greg
Gifford's new book, it is here. And guess what it deals with?
The mind versus the brain, your emotions, what to do when you
or a loved one is diagnosed with a mental health disorder. What
about psychotropics? It is here. Lies my therapist
told me. Okay, when I say it's here, you
can pre-order it. And I would like to encourage
you to do that. Would you please, please consider getting this
book. It's a big one. It's hardcover. It's a glorious
work. And it's a magnificent read.
I just, I just, I drink this stuff in. And you're going to
see the power of the Bible when it comes to overcoming so many
of our emotional issues. No, all of our emotional issues.
And it's an important book. And it's a book that if your
pastor isn't willing to read it, you should. Whether you have
a family member who is struggling with ADHD, whatever the emotional
moniker that they have been given, get this book, Lives My Therapist
Told Me, and here's what'll happen. This is kind of strategic. It
will help more people see this book. It's sort of like YouTube.
The more people like a YouTube video, the more people they show
it to. The more people who pre-order this book, the more are going
to ultimately get it. So please visit fortisinstitute.org
slash lies fortisinstitute.org slash lies and get Dr. Greg Gifford's
book, Lies My Therapist Told Me. And we We'll take a sneak
peek inside of its covers, particularly pertaining to... Psychotropics. How old is Joseph Prince, Jimmy? 61. This is Wretched Radio. You might not see them, but the
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the mental health industrial complex. This is Wretched Radio,
Dr. Gregg Gifford's book. It is available
for pre-order right now. And I encourage you, I implore
you, I beg you, consider getting this book. and read it, it's
a lengthy tome, but it's needed because this subject has been
virtually unaddressed by Christians now, at least since Freud and
psychoanalysis and suppose a neuroscience has ruled the day and Dr. Greg Gifford's book drops a bomb
on all of it and says, hold on, not so fast. You are not scientific
at all. Furthermore, the Bible offers
a better way, and this book will be eminently helpful for you
if you have a family member who is diagnosed, and you likely
do. After all, these days, sorry,
we are all on the spectrum, aren't we? That's the joke. We're all
on the spectrum. Why? Why the huge increase? In fact, I think I heard Donald
Trump at that, whatever that speech was that he gave in Washington,
not the State of the Union, but whatever they were calling it,
talking about the autism rates skyrocketing. We got to figure
this out. Well, one of the big problems
is our definition of what is autism and who gets to say and
what exactly is the test for that? Dr. Greg Gifford's book,
it is a scud missile, and I encourage you to pre-order it now. It will
help massively with how many people end up reading this book.
Pre-order sales have big implications. So if you're thinking about it,
you're intrigued, please visit FortisInstitute.org slash lies. FortisInstitute.org slash lies. We don't make a penny on that.
We're just encouraging you to get a book by one of our fellows
that we believe is eminently important, perhaps especially
for you. Fortisinstitute.org slash lies. Let me share with you a chapter
eight or at least bits of it on the subject of psychotropics.
And don't jump ahead to chapter eight. He lays the foundation.
The groundwork is made in the early chapters about the distinction
between the mind and the brain. Remember, your brain, it's an
organ between your ears. It's not you. You're the inner
man. Your mind is you. If you prefer,
your soul is you. Your brain is not you. And psychiatry
goes about the business of altering the chemicals in the brain. And
the question that Greg asked that has not, it's staggering
that this has not been more in the front of the conversation
because it's like, duh, If you give a pill to alter the chemicals
in the brain, how does that help the mind? And the answer is,
it doesn't. To the book, we go. Tens of millions
of Americans are taking antidepressants, anti-anxiety medications. Get
ready for this. 76 million people. That's one
in four At least, and those numbers, by the way, were from 2020. And
Greg is going to plead with everybody inside of evangelicalism who
gives a enthusiastic thumbs up to psychotropics to just quickly
dispense them. By the way, please note, he doesn't
say that each and every instance is sinful. We'll get to that.
But this rush to give people a pill to deal with their mind
issue? He says, let's take a look at
this biblically. In sum, psychotropic medications
cannot treat the mind, only the brain. Who can we thank for this? Freudian psychoanalysis morphed
into biological psychiatry. And we started to think that,
hey, we're going to be more scientific about this and have empirical
science and research psychiatrists to advance the banner of the
scientific approach. And they typically called it
neuroscience. In the 80s, that got put on steroids. Today, that's the air we breathe. You've got a mental disorder.
You've got an emotional disorder. The DSM-5 says so. It's all very
scientific, or is it? And the answer to that question
is, it's not. We've talked about this before.
You go to the doc. How are you feeling? Well, my
knee's kind of bothering me. Well, take some Advil. Well,
what's wrong with my knee? Just take some Advil. You're
going to do a test on my knee? No, just going to fix the symptom. Oh, OK. I accept that, doc. But how are you feeling emotionally?
Well, you know. Kind of a long weekend and a
little... I guess I'm a little more tired
than I used to be. Well, let me write you a prescription for
that. Oh, what's that gonna do for me? That's gonna help your
brain. Okay, what's wrong with my brain? Well, it's telling
me that you need this pill. Excuse me, I feel like I'm caught
in a loop. Why do I need this pill? Are you gonna test my brain?
They don't. They can't. Dr. Daniel Amen, for all of his effort
to try to persuade you that it is all about the brain, and we
can see here's a normal brain, here's an abnormal brain, however
we define that. Now, that may or may not be true,
but that has nothing to do with the mind. Furthermore, how's
about this? Is it possible that your mind
can affect your brain? What about the issue of unconfessed
sin? We know that David felt wretched
when he didn't confess his sin. What about that component? The
secularists will never discuss it. Back to Dr. Greg Gifford's
book, which I encourage you to order at fortisinstitute.org
slash lies. Since the brain became the primary
focus for understanding so-called mental illness, fixing the brain
became the primary goal of psychiatrists. Quote from Daniel Lehman, once
people understand that the brain controls everything they do and
everything they are, they want a better brain so they can have
a better life. I'm familiar with Dr. Daniel Lehman. He professes
to be a Christian. He has not studied his own craft
with his own faith. That's obvious. This is rudimentary. You're not your brain. The Bible
never suggests that. Psychiatry has searched for biological
reasons for mental illness. And what has become the standard
way of fixing the brain for them? Psychotropics. Now, Greg is going to ask you
to follow some logic here. You meet with a psychiatrist
who asks you questions, maybe gives you screening questions
before he meets with you. And after asking the question,
he offers medication or a combo. In most instances, he never takes
your blood. Never takes a CT scan of your
brain. Never tests you for vitamin deficiencies. The psychiatrist
has no clue how your thyroid is doing. By the way, thyroid
is a big deal. And thyroid, it can affect your
mood and your energy so much. Back to Greg. Rather, they verbally
assess you based on arbitrary symptoms and then offer a medication
recommendation. I'm not exaggerating when I say
this is exactly what you can expect. How in the world did
we get here? We just, we just let them do
it. We trust those people who wear
lab coats and they've got diplomas on the wall and we give them
a title and we trust them. Greg Gifford's book says it's
time to stop trusting them. It's time to start trusting the
Bible. Although they're considered medical
doctors, psychiatrists are often seen by other medical doctors
as practicing pseudoscience. After speaking at a conference,
an ER doctor came up to me and said, Dr. Gifford, I've been
saying these things for years. Even Daniel Amen said, quote,
all other medical professionals look directly at the organs they
treat. But psychiatrists are taught
to assume what the underlying biological mechanisms are for
illnesses, like depression, ADHD, etc., without ever looking at
the brain. That's his profession. Now, he's
trying to change that. He's got the cart before the
horse. Nevertheless, this is not science we're dealing with.
It's pseudoscience. Psychiatrists who are focused
on mental, emotional, and behavioral disorders and have legal authority
to prescribe medication have used medical terminology for
describing and attempting to treat the immaterial. And how's that worked out for
us? Have you seen the commercials now where you have to take a
pill to help your pill that's supposed to help you feel better? And
it's just staggering. Has it not worked for you? Are
you still not quite there? Well, this will just boost you
up a little bit more. It's not working. Greg Gifford,
it would be more accurate to say that what the psychiatrist
is doing is seeing the effects of the mind on emotions and behavior,
and then prescribing medications to address those downstream effects. It's much like treating a headache. Why do you have a headache? Not
sure? Take a couple of Tylenol. It makes the pain go away temporarily,
but it never addresses the underlying issue. And when it comes to our
emotions, that is precisely where the Bible goes. Like an arrow,
it hits its mark when it is aimed at the mind. Dr. Greg Gifford's book, Lies My
Psychiatrist, told me you just got a little taste of it. And
it just keeps getting better and better and gooder. It is
a book that is needed, and I would encourage you to consider pre-ordering
it now. FortisInstitute.org slash lies. Now you can get it anywhere you
want to, pre-order anywhere you want. FortisInstitute.org slash
lies might be memorable for you. Because the more books that are
pre-ordered, the more books that will be in the hands of people
who need to read this important book, Lies My Therapist Told
Me. This is Wretched Radio. Books of the Bible. Zechariah was a prophet who preached
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Radio with Todd Freel. Hey, Mental Health Industrial
Complex, how's about we trust... The Science. This is Wretched
Radio. Dr. Greg Gifford has dropped
his book, Lies My Therapist Told Me. Boom! It's gonna make ripples in the
world. I suspect that he's gonna be getting on programs, perhaps
Joe Rogan, etc. This is the type of fodder that
they love, and we're more than happy to join them in their exposing
of the industrial complexes that perhaps don't always do what
they purport to do. And perhaps no complex is more
guilty than the mental health industrial complex. They make
their field sound so scientific. We do science. We're doctors. We do conferences. We have journals. They're peer-reviewed. Trust
us. And Greg Gifford says, not so
fast. And this book is long overdue. Been encouraging you to consider
pre-ordering this book. And might I perhaps even more
encourage you, dear pastor, read this book. Because you've got
people in your congregation, you know this if you're a if
you're a shepherd who smells like the sheep You know this
that they have got struggles. They've got kids who are bouncing
off the walls. They don't know what to do They're telling them
take the drugs and this book will help you to help them Please
consider pre-ordering it Now, Lies, my therapist told me you
can do that at fortisinstitute.org slash lies. And Jimmy, you went
there. Tell the tens and tens of people
what you saw at fortisinstitute.org slash lies. Yeah, it's a funnel,
as you were saying, for you to be able to order it at tons of
places like preorder, like at Amazon, Target, Walmart, wherever
they sell books. So you can get the best deal
wherever you want it. You can do wherever you want
to. We get nothing out of it other than Oh, we'd be so excited
if a bunch of people read this book. It could be a game changer
inside of the church and perhaps start persuading pastors quit
sending people to the air quote professionals. Quit encouraging
your people to give their kids pills for problems that we used
to consider immaturity. Isn't isn't when you think about
it, just You had ADHD, Jimmy. I'm sure you did. Probably. I mean, if we were going to use
the criteria of the DSM-5, we're just immature. Didn't want to
focus. Didn't think that stuff was important. Other things were more interesting.
It's fascinating that we as a society determine, no, those are not
the things that you must be interested in. The things you must be interested
in are the things we say you need to be interested in. And
I get it, we want to educate our kids. But there are some
kids, they don't quite slot. into that file. They struggle
to be interested in learning those things. I remember that
vividly. Isn't this true? Haven't you
said this? Okay, this is about a scientific, a psychotropic
medication prescribing. Have you ever said, I wish I
could go back and do my education again? I think I learned so much
more and I'm certain that you would. Why? You're more mature. You're developed and you understand
the importance of these things and you see how these things
work in the world and why you're actually learning them. When
you were learning these things as a kid, you had no clue. You
just did it. And some excelled more than others.
I don't know who those people were because it certainly wasn't
I, but As you grow, things change. Why are we giving kids pills? Simply because they're immature.
Greg Gifford's book in addressing the claim from the secularists
that psychotropics, it alters the brain chemistry. Here's what
he writes. It should be made clear that
psychotropics supposedly work by adjusting levels of brain
chemicals. But one problem is that when
a psychiatrist assigns them, they've typically done no work
to measure the chemicals of a patient's brain. Man, this is so obvious, isn't
it? It's believed that psychotropics
are treating a known medical issue, but that claim, debated. Even secular researchers cannot
agree on what a psychotropic is treating. An author of a book
from 2010, Anatomy of an Epidemic, he's a researcher, quote, the
hypothesis that the drugs balanced abnormal brain chemistry Never
panned out. In fact, when the serotonin bombshell
was dropped, that should have been the end of psychotropics.
Wait a second, we keep being told that we need to just alter
our serotonin, and then we discovered, you mean the serotonin level
doesn't affect all of those things? Hold on a sec, so why are we
giving us a pill that deals with serotonin, which doesn't actually
deal with my issue? Nevertheless, we keep marching
to the pharmacy. and we keep sending our children
there. He writes, this hypothesis has
never panned out. Although the public may still
be told that the drugs normalize brain chemistry, the truth is
that researchers did not find that people with schizophrenia
had overactive dopamine systems, or that those diagnosed with
depression suffered from abnormally low levels of serotonin, or Norepo. nor other stuff that's inside
of your brain. 2022, Dr. Jonathan Raskin, State
University of New York in the Daily Mail. Many medics continued
to prescribe the medication, even while they were unsure if
they were effective because it was easier than offering more
time intensive care. Insert plug for becoming a certified
biblical counselor here. This is one reason why so many
people are given scripts One wonders, it would be fascinating.
Jimmy, we should do this. We got to check out the legality
of this. years ago used to do this, would just call up a place
live on the air. We should see if we would do
that with these places that are advertising on TV. Do you have
a mental health issue? I think of the swimmer, Michael
Phelps, you know, just, Hey, here's a phone call. We're a
phone call away. Give us a call. We'll help you. I wonder how
many minutes you would be on the phone before they sent you
to a medical professional to write you a script. because they
can't fix you on the phone, and a conversation typically doesn't
get the job done. We know the complexities of this
issue, and even biblical counseling doesn't say, take a Bible verse
and call me in the morning. Biblical counseling says we need
to transform your mind, needs to be renewed, and that's going
to take some time, and it's going to take a particular context,
the local church, And the professionals, they don't have time. We're in
the process at Alpharetta Bible Church of actually opening up
a biblical counseling center. I'm so excited about this. We've
got a ton of certified biblical counselors in our body. And wow,
are we going to put them to work? And we've been doing some research.
So we're talking to some good churches. Now, we're talking,
for instance, to Faith Community and Woodstock Great Church, John
Kratz's church down in Sharpsburg, Faith Bible. How do you put together
a counseling center? What does it look like? How do
you let the community know? And their basic answer is you
don't need to, they find out. and you'll be swamped within
minutes. People are like, what? There's
counseling? Help. Nothing else has worked. The professionals have not gotten
the job done for my family. And you will have a waiting list. Everybody keeps saying you're
going to have a waiting list, like a year-long waiting. Greg Gifford
says that, too, when I was talking to him about this subject. He
says, get ready. You're going to be overwhelmed by the number
of people who need help. The professionals know that,
and they can't deal with it. But the local church can, because
guess what? We have more outposts than the
psychiatrists. There's more of us than there
are of them. And if we get trained to counsel
people biblically, This is what your people need inside of your
local church. Become a biblical counselor,
biblicalcounseling.com. You can go way up the chain,
a master's degree, a doctor's degree in biblical counseling
at the Masters University, masters.edu. Greg Gifford is a prof there.
Adam Tyson, another one of our fellows, he's a prof there. And
you can help these people who, Otherwise, they're going to be
given a pill, and it ain't going to help them. Because so many
times, we know that there are other issues going on here. From
the book, if the mind is immaterial, we know the psychotropic isn't
treating the mind. Strike one. The psychotropic
may affect the chemicals of the brain, but those are not what
is causing so-called mental illnesses in the first place. Strike two. In this way, the psychotropic
is not actually treating the root of the issue in so-called
mental illness. Rather, the psychotropic is treating
chemicals in the brain. Three strikes, they should be
out. And there is an alternative if
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chemicals in your brain. We don't know how, but it is.
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off, which by the way, this particular chapter in Greg's book, Lives
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lies because it will bless your family, especially if you or
a loved one has been diagnosed. For instance, your kid has been
diagnosed with ADHD. What do you do with that? Let
me just share with you a line from Greg Gifford's book. Should
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slash lies. He deals with Adderall, for instance,
and believe me, he's balanced. He doesn't have an ironclad,
never ever can you take advantage of some of these medications
that might help you to deal with these symptoms so that you can
get to the root issue and actually deal with it. And he goes to
great lengths to walk you through it, to help you chart a course,
to help your kid, who maybe just has a serious condition of ants
in their pants, like most of us had, frankly, please consider
getting this book, Mega Important Lies My Therapist Told Me, fortisinstitute.org
slash lies. Let me share with you a number
of stories that help support the thesis of this book, at least
this particular chapter that we've been sharing. No psychotropic
will ever cure the issues of your immaterial mind. You can
take a pill till you die and it ain't gonna fix you. It's
just not. It's gonna treat your symptom.
That's what psychotropics do, at best, and we don't even know
the process. Oh, how much trust do we have
in these people? And some of it is well-earned in some quarters,
but just consider we put this thing in our mouth and swallow
it. And we've never even been tested
for it. They don't even know why these
things do what they do. And that's why when you watch
these commercials, you hear a laundry list, and you may also experience
suicidal ideations. You may want to start murdering
people. You'll start to feel like you, what? These supposed
side effects? Is it a side effect? Or is it
possibly that's what they do? And the answer to that question
is they don't know. Because they simply can't figure
out what they do once they get inside of you. Greg deals with
that also in Lies My Therapist Told Me. Story time. Imagine
you had severe dental pain. Your jaw, throbbing, you got
headaches. Even breathing brought severe
pain. So if you were in this situation,
Tylenol would not be the answer or the cure to your problem.
But Tylenol would help you to get to a point where you could
deal with your problem, which is most likely some infection
in your tooth. You see, where this is going,
could you possibly use psychotropics so you can get to the dentist?
I mixed my metaphors, but the answer is you could. And he walks
through the God-honoring ways you can consider that, which
is super, super helpful. That you're not, for instance,
going to a pill to be your savior. You've already got that. You're
not going to medication to be your comfort. You've already
got that in the person of Jesus Christ. Can you use that medication
potentially? Yeah, with a lot of counsel,
a lot of wisdom, and with God-honoring motives. Similarly, writes Gifford,
a psychotropic is not going to fix a problem in your mind, simply
won't. The psychotropic will potentially
alleviate symptoms so you can focus on the deeper issues of
your mind. So it's possible to use the psychotropic
to help focus on the true problem, which is the mind. Then wean
off the psychotropic medication. That's, that's... I got to tell
you, that's just really mature, especially for a whippersnapper
like Gifford. He's just like, did he even hit
30 yet? Because he looks younger than
Joseph Prince at the age of 61. It is not a sin to take psychotropics,
writes Gifford, but psychotropics are not treating the real issue.
They're like Tylenol, a symptom relief that sometimes can even
mask the real issues. Example, if you were to meet
a man who was considering using antidepressants because he had
lost interest in daily activities, losing weight, not sleeping,
struggling with motivation, antidepressants would seem like a pretty normal
treatment. Ask yourself the question, if
you were presented with a fellow like that, What would you counsel? What would you say? Where would
you send him? Maybe, just maybe, a little digging
might reveal the source of this gentleman's problem. And what
a tragedy it would be if we didn't dig deep into the heart of the
issue to reveal what might be going on behind closed doors,
which might be producing the fruit of somebody who isn't sleeping
and losing weight and has lost interest in activities. Maybe
there's more going on. Gifford, as you spoke with him,
you found out he was secretly engaging in sexual sin, specifically
pornography. He feels hypocritical, fake,
and condemned, unable to approach God. But he also isn't finding
any other balm for his guilty, fearful conscience. Well... Could it be that a rush to give
a prescription to a man who is immersed in pornography would
be to perhaps dull his senses? But it certainly is not going
to stop looking at porn. And frankly, he won't feel any
better. He can't feel any better. Why? Because David didn't feel
any better. When you've got unconfessed sin, it's going to just eat away
at your bones. You're going to ache in the inner. Everything is off. That's what
sin does. Psychotropics don't deal with
sin. And what a basic analogy, what a good illustration to show
giving this guy a pill And he's still looking at filth? That
makes no sense at all. Back to Gifford, Proverbs 28,
13. Whoever conceals his transgressions
will not prosper. You cannot expect a person to
feel well while hiding personal sin. Insomnia, depressed mood,
loss of integrity in daily activities, weight loss can all result from
harboring secret sin. David said, when I kept silent,
my bones wasted away. So what would antidepressants
do for this guy? They'd simply mask the symptoms
of the real problem of unrepentant sin. Please note, and Greg addresses
this, not all sadness, depression, lack of motivation is because
of unconfessed sin. You can't say that. Some depression
comes from personal sin. And that means in those instances,
taking antidepressants ain't going to do nothing for you.
Here's another story from Greg Gifford's book. A man was being
unfaithful to his wife. This is from a counseling case.
Neither his wife nor I knew about it at the time, but they came
to me for counseling because their marriage was not going
well. He said he was depressed and
had actually been prescribed antidepressants. Isn't that staggering? It's just a mate, it's clear
the source of the, if you're, if you're, I can't speak for
you ladies, but I think it's true, but I, I suspect it's heightened
in men. And maybe you don't believe this
because it doesn't look like it, madam, but when we're not
getting along with you, we're miserable. We're just, it's all
out of joint. Nothing is quite click. It just,
it's just broken and it feels like we just, so let's say that
that continues. You're, you're feeling that I'm
out of joint because you know, you're having an ongoing affair.
You go to a doc who says, well, here you go. Here's your prescription.
Take this. And the dude's going to keep
having an affair. I mean, even a secularist might
go, maybe the source of his problem isn't chemical. Maybe it's moral
and behavioral. And the secularists never look
at that. So this dude who is having an ongoing affair is given
a script from a doctor and nobody knew about his escapades? Quote,
even after months of counseling and using his antidepressants,
there was no change until we found out he was cheating on
his wife. A friend of the wife caught him
visiting his mistress and told the wife about it. Why did his
feelings of depression not go away? Hmm, let's ponder. After this, he repented of this
sinful relationship and saw God begin to restore his marriage
in beautiful ways, no prescription necessary. Now, every situation
has complexities and differences. We want to be careful that we're
not making a proclamation for every single instance of somebody
feeling depressed or sad. As I mentioned, Greg Gifford
is well-balanced in his book, Lies My Therapist Told Me. He
does address the possibility of, but as a rule, overwhelmingly,
it's junk. It's not needed. It's not helping. In fact, it's probably making
it worse because you probably exchanged one bag of blues for
another. That numb, dull sensation that
comes from psychotropics. Please consider pre-ordering
this book if you would be so kind. Lies My Therapist Told
Me You Can Do That. Say now at fortisinstitute.org
slash lies. Congratulations, Greg. And until
tomorrow, go serve your king.
Wretched Radio | March 15, 2025
| Sermon ID | 31325182035736 |
| Duration | 51:59 |
| Date | |
| Category | Radio Broadcast |
| Language | English |
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