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Hey friends, this is Michael
Bohm with Youth Apologetics Training. Today we are going to finish
this incredibly long series about the Emergent Church. I know I
went a little long on this. It's important to me, it's very
important to Christianity in general, that Christians be warned
about this movement. They are sweeping the American
Christian Church by storm. You go into just about any Christian
church's bookstore. Most Christian churches have
little bookstores inside of them. Well, okay, some of them don't.
But you will find emergent pastors, emergent writings in their church,
in their little bookstore. You'll find the youth pastors
in just about every church in America is subscribing to some
of these people, like Brian McClaren, Doug Padgett, Rob Bell, different
guys like that. Guys, this has to be refuted.
It has to be known. And so, interestingly enough,
as I've been going through this series, I can tell that not as
many people are downloading this series, because I don't even
think they realize what the Emergent Church is. When I first started
seeing podcasts popping up on Sermon Audio about the Emergent
Church, I had no idea that it was actually talking about some
kind of strange movement. I had no idea. I was just thinking,
Well, I guess I'm not really sure what I was thinking. It
just didn't come up on the radar. I had no idea. So, I skipped
over those podcasts, too. But anyway, we've got to get
this message out. This is the last one in the series.
Thank God. I'm ready to move on to something
else. So, anyway, with that, let's
go ahead and jump right in. So, what about judgment and eschatology? All right. I'm only going to
have a few quotes here, but for the most part, in general, the
Emergent Church rejects the Second Coming of Jesus. Kind of interesting,
huh? There's a lot of scriptures,
and I'm not going to get really into this. In fact, I don't think
I'm going to offer you any scriptures to prove my points. I think you
guys have seen so many of these scriptures in the Bible. Jesus
is coming again. I mean, what's the whole point
of the Book of Revelation and all of these warnings in the
Bible where there is a very clear statement, you know, Jesus is
coming again on the clouds, okay, to make everything right. There
is a judgment that's coming. But here's what Brian McLaren
says about the Second Coming. And yeah, they pretty much all
question, again, question everything, answer nothing. They pretty much
all reject the Second Coming. He says, the phrase, the Second
Coming of Christ, never actually appears in the Bible. Neither
does the Trinity. Okay, whether or not the doctrine
to which the phrase refers deserves rethinking, the popular abuse
of it certainly needs to be named and rejected. If we believe that
Jesus came in peace the first time, but that wasn't his real
and decisive coming, wait, that's a straw man, it was just a kind
of warm-up for the real thing. Then we leap No one says that. No one says that Jesus' first
coming was a warm-up for the real thing. No, we say Jesus'
first coming was quite possibly the most important of his two
comings. He came with the express purpose
of taking the punishment that you, Brian McLaren, deserve.
That's death, hell, and suffering. He took the punishment for your
sins on Himself, on that cross, that so if you believe in Him,
trust in Him, call on Him, and repent of your sins. He did that
for all of us. If we just repent and we trust
in Him. That is the most important thing Jesus could have done.
That's not a warm-up for the real thing. What a strong man. Okay, so moving on. Then we leave
the door open to envisioning a second coming. that will be
characterized by violence, killing, domination, and eternal torture. I mean, he's really trying to
make God look bad. Look, that's what God said he's
going to do. All right? And Brian is really trying to
paint God in a bad picture. And I would be afraid if I was
Brian McClaren. I would be terrified. Yes, we're
supposed to fear God. Yes. And he is coming soon. And
when he does come, sinners beware. He's going to clean house. He's
going to put this world under his feet. He's going to subdue
the nations. And then we're going to live
on a planet that is without sin, at least for a while. Okay? It's
going to be awesome. This vision reflects, and come
on, how wonderful will that be when God, when Jesus finally
cleanses this planet of wicked sinful desires and All the junk! God's finally gonna judge sin.
That's a good thing. That's a very good thing. This
vision reflects a deconversion, a return to trust in the power
of Pilate, not the unarmed truth that stood before Pilate, refusing
to fight. Actually, Jesus was about as
armed as you possibly could be. He had entire legions of angels
at his disposal. He was meek. not weak. Jesus had the power to do anything
he wanted to. He willingly chose to take the
punishment we deserve on himself. I mean, I don't understand how
he's missing this. You almost wonder if he's deliberately being
deceptive here. So moving on, this eschatological,
a wonderful big word that means basically the study of end times,
This eschatological understanding of a violent second coming leads
us to believe, as we've said before, that in the end, even
God finds it impossible to fix the world apart from violence.
And coercion? Come on! No one should be surprised
when those shaped by this theology behave accordingly. Ah, what? It's not, okay, vengeance is
mine, sayeth the Lord? So, if you're reading the whole
Bible, you're not going to act like that. So, anyway, if we
remain charmed by this eschatology, we will be forced to see the
non-violence of Jesus, of the Gospels, as a kind of strategic
fake! A strategic fake-out, like the
feigned retreat in a war, to be followed up by crushing blows
of so-called redemptive violence in the end. You know, he is completely
missing it. The gentle Jesus of the first
coming—oh, here comes the zinger—the gentle Jesus of the first coming
becomes a kind of trick Jesus, a fake-me-out Jesus, to be replaced
by the true jihadist Jesus of a violent second coming. This is why I believe that many
of our current eschatologies, intoxicated by dubious interpretations
of John's apocalypse, are not only ignorant and wrong, but
dangerous and immoral. Holy smokes. Wow. Okay. Here's another one. Brian
McLaren as well. In this slide, a God who mandates
an inter An intentional supernatural disaster leading to unparalleled
genocide is hardly worthy of belief, much less worship. How can you ask your children
to honor a deity so uncreative, overreactive, and utterly capricious
regarding life?" Alright, that one's not so much apocalyptic,
but just in general, why does God allow certain tragedies? Like, for example, Katrina, or
what happened in Fukushima, or, well, on and on and on, this
Hurricane Sandy, or, well, for that matter, Sandy Hook. Look,
first of all, God is not responsible for the sins of mankind. So you
can go ahead and scoot that to the side right now. We have been
given free will, and in that free will, sometimes some of
us abuse that free will and do stupid things. Now, as far as
natural disasters go, McLaren completely, and many others,
just ignore the sovereignty of God. I'm not sure what he's trying
to suggest here. What, is he trying to suggest
that God is not in control of the weather, and not in control
over tectonic activity and various things that are happening, as
far as the Earth goes? Is he not in control? Because
then what kind of God do we have? He is in control. He does allow
some of these things. See, when Adam and Eve said, we, they, willingly chose to
reject God, to turn their back on Him, and in doing so, this
planet, well, it fell. is a fallen planet now, and now
the planet groans to be reunited and fixed. We have a broken,
fallen planet to deal with, and there's all kinds of natural
disasters that happen. God allows them to happen. They
do happen. And God is sovereign. Why does
God allow this? I don't know, but always a greater
good comes from it. And we're going to do a series,
you know, that was not a very reassuring explanation, I don't think. I
am planning on doing a whole series on why God allows pain and suffering
and these types of things to happen. It's very important.
In fact, that's high on my list of things that need to be covered.
And I might even bring a guest in for a portion of that series. just to get some other opinions,
but yes, God is sovereign, and we need to recognize that He
has purposes, and we don't always know what they are, and we need
to recognize that. And so, here's a whole new subject.
Let's move on here. Social justice, all right? In other words, let's put it
in different words here. Let's say it how it is. Steal
from somebody and give it to somebody else. Now, I'm not talking
about Robin Hood here. Robin Hood stole from the rich
who stole from them and gave the people's money right back
to him. He was involved in extortion,
this king, and he was taking the people's money and Robin
Hood was taking it back. I'm not saying Robin Hood's actions
were right, but they're different. Okay, social justice, this idea
that we need to take from the people that worked their tail
off to make these large portions of money, and then, in turn,
give back to society by creating, well, not in all cases, but in
many cases, cool products that we want to buy, and creating
jobs, and creating commerce, and keeping our economy moving
and flowing, I'm not saying that all of their actions are benevolent. No, usually not. In fact, many
of these people are driven by greed. But let's be honest, who
cares? Okay, whatever their motives
are, they made that money. And as long as they didn't make
it immorally or in an unethical manner, whose right is it to
their money? It's their right. They made that
money. They made it legally. They made
it fairly, regardless of whether they did it from greed or not.
And they are entitled to their money. They are entitled to their
private property. And nobody should be going in
there and stealing their private property, their money, their
land, whatever. That's stealing. God says, doubt
shalt not steal. In that commandment is the acknowledgement
of private property. To say you can't steal, you should
not steal, God hates when you steal, is to say that somebody
owns something, it doesn't belong to you, and you just took it.
Right? So, social justice, I would imagine, in God's eyes, is also
an abomination, or at the very least, a great sin. So this is
what Jim Wallace, again, not of, please convince me, this
is the emergent church Jim Wallace, he says, I don't think that abortion
is the moral equivalent issue to slavery. I think poverty is
the new slavery. Poverty and global inequality
are the fundamental moral issues of our time. That's my judgment.
I hate when people play fast and loose with definitions. You
start with a word that excites a strong reaction from somebody,
like slavery. Disgusting, despicable, especially
what happened here in the United States and the South. Okay? God forgive us. But they take
a strong word like that and then all of a sudden they start scooting
some whole new meaning into it. Poverty is the new slavery. Poverty. So people who are poor,
irregardless of how they got there. Maybe they chose to be
poor. Maybe they decided they want to travel around the United
States and be a hobo. Lots of people do that. Okay.
Maybe they lost a limb, whether through an accident or through
defending our country as a warrior. Okay. And now they're unable
to work and they're on the street corner with a sign. All right.
That's not slavery. All right. It might be tragic,
but that's not slavery. There are things that they can
do, and they're not being commanded to do this and that. They're
not enslaved. They're not being held somewhere. They're not being commanded to
do certain jobs every day, and whipped, and verbally abused,
and physically abused, and all the junk that goes on with slavery,
when people think of slavery. None of that's happening, okay? And it's our responsibility,
church, it's our responsibility to pick these people up. Now,
if they're deadbeats, if they're the type that can work and choose
not to because they'd rather be lazy, what do we do with those
people? We ignore them. We tell them,
hey, if you don't work, you don't eat. You know, figure it out. Figure it out. Fix your situation.
But what about the people who can't work? We take them in. We help them. Okay, that's our
job as the church, not the government. We don't do it at gunpoint. We
do it with a willing and loving heart. We're not commanded to
by the pastor. We're told by the pastor, hey
friends, if we want to be good Christians, this is what we do.
And then we, as we feel fit, lovingly reach out and help people. That's how it works. Okay, so
anyway, that's Jim Wallace. He thinks that poverty is slavery.
Watch out for people that start changing definitions, especially
when they take words that excite extreme reactions and then start
playing fast and loose with them. So here's Jermals again. He says,
as more Christians become influenced by liberation theology, I will
do a series on that someday. Finding themselves increasingly
rejecting the values of institutions of capitalism. There's nothing
wrong with capitalism. The problem is in greed. It is in men's hearts. Okay? And when you define it truthfully,
greed is the issue here. You will find greed in every
economic system. All of them. So if you remove
greed from all of them and look at each suggestion or philosophy
on how we should run our economies, and work them through by their
merits, capitalism seems to be the one that stands the tallest.
It's silliness. But, okay, there is a very, very
strong socialist, communitarian movement that is breaking into
our churches. If you want to learn more about
that, I will be getting into that in the future. Not so much,
because I want to be more concerned about apologetics, but I will
get into that a little bit. Seek out people like Brandon
House with Worldview Weekend, an amazing website. I have links
to his website on mine. Also people like Chris Pinto.
There's many people out there that talk about this, but I think
Brandon House is probably the best. Anyway, let me get back
here. Finding themselves increasingly
rejecting the values of institutions of capitalism, they will also
be drawn to the Marxist analysis and praxis praxis that is so
central to the social justice movement. Dan Kimball, he says,
our faith also includes kingdom living, part of which is the
responsibility to fight locally and globally for social justice.
No, it's not. On behalf of the poor and needy.
No, we don't fight globally and locally for the poor and needy.
No, we fight within our church doors. to bring them in and love
them and bless them. And again, that's those who cannot
help themselves. We don't help the people who
are deadbeats, who just want to sit on their hind end and
be a leech. No, you let them starve off until
they realize, oh boy, I better go get a job. Okay? That's their responsibility.
They're fully capable. Let them deal with it. And so
he goes on, our example is Jesus, who spent his time among the
leopards, the poor, and the needy. Jesus, who is basically the Father
of the Church, spent time with the leopards, those who could
not get jobs, the poor and the needy, those who desperately
needed help and could not help themselves. Again, Paul says,
if you don't work, you don't eat. Paul, the one who was inspired
by the Holy Spirit. So, that's pretty much it, guys. That's where we need to stop.
That's the Emergent Church in a nutshell. Question everything,
answer nothing. And while you're at it, kind
of bring in a bunch of side causes and side missions that have nothing
to do with anything biblical. You saw a lot of straw men as
we went along. You saw things like the Emergent
Church accepts things like mysticism. It's very much elevated. Walking a labyrinth. Breath prayers. Contemplative spirituality. We
saw that... Oh, by the way, I didn't mention
this, but abortion. is something that is also, well, really not
denounced by the emergent church, and is, in some strange and very
subtle ways, endorsed. You know, let's go ahead and
question, does the Bible really talk about, you know, before
I formed you in the womb, I knew you? Scriptures like that. How
about thou shalt not kill? How about if a man and a woman
are fighting—I am still paraphrasing these—but if a man and a woman
are fighting, and the woman gives birth prematurely, and there
is no harm, then it's okay, okay, right? Take care of this. But if the child is damaged,
it is eye for eye, tooth for tooth, bird for bird, stripe
for stripe, okay, big deal. Death for, or life for life,
big deal. All right, God sees this unborn
child as a human being, all right, from the moment of conception.
But it's very much watered down in the Emergent Church movement.
And we've seen that as we've gone a little bit. I didn't talk
too much about it, but you've seen that. We've seen that their
view on homosexuality is very much unbiblical. It's questioned
and pretty much allowed to stand. We've looked at the Emergent
Church view of the Gospel and how watered down and pretty much
non-existent that it is. Their view on hell. They don't
even accept hell. They pretty much question the
existence of hell, even though hell is clearly talked about
in the Bible. It's conscious. It's eternal.
Oh boy. Their mystical approach to the
Bible, post-modernism, deconstructionism. We've covered all these things
in this series. That, Christian yoga, meditation, denial of absolutes. Friends,
we've covered all these things. And that's the Emergent Church. Again, it's like nailing Jell-O
to a wall, because they don't take definitive stances on just
about anything. They just question everything
and provide no answers. That's the Emergent Church in
a nutshell. With that, friends, I do have a P.O. Box now. If you would like to support
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Social Justice and the End Times-What Does the Emergent Church Believe 15 episode 307
Series Emergent Church & Apologetics
What does the Emergent Church teach concerning Social Justice? What do Emergent Church leaders teach about the end times?
| Sermon ID | 312131510120 |
| Duration | 22:46 |
| Date | |
| Category | Youth |
| Bible Text | Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27 |
| Language | English |
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