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Alright, Lesson 3 of the Intertestamental
Period. Today we're going to be looking
at Daniel Chapter 8. If you want to go ahead and look
there, remember we're using Daniel as a framework for our study
because of the prophecies. A lot of them have to do with
this Intertestament Period. As point of review, I turn your
attention to this awesome drawing up here. All right, can somebody
explain to me, ignore that, what this is? And
can walk through it somewhat intelligently. Nebuchadnezzar's dream from chapter
2. Right? Walking through the dream,
he said, you Nebuchadnezzar had this great dream, you saw this
figure, and it had a head made of gold. And this is the only
one that we know for sure what it represented because he tells
us. What did the head of gold represent?
Babylon. And what did the prophet Daniel
say was next? Arms and chest of silver. His
belly and thighs are bronze, legs of iron, and clay and iron
mixed. So this is Babylon. This is what
we know for sure. He says, after you comes another
kingdom. And what came after Babylon? The Medo-Persian Empire. And
followed by? Greece. Greece, followed by? Romans. And then what's defeating
clay? We really don't know and it's
not worth arguing about. That's not the, that's not what this
class is for. So we can argue about that later,
time for many. So what we're gonna talk about
today is this orange and chest of silver. This is the Persian
Empire. Again, just to remind you, the
nation of Israel had split into two kingdoms. What happened to
the northern tribe? The 10 northern tribes, the kingdom
of Israel, what happened to them? Syria conquered them around 720
BC and scattered them all throughout the empire. And not only did
they take a lot of the Jews out of that land, they moved other
people from conquered nations into that land. And those people
married and interbred with the native Jewish population that
was there. And they formed a half-breed race, and I'm not doing this
as a racist matter, but that's how the Jews saw them, an inferior
half-breed race called the what? Samaritans. The Samaritans. And
the Jews hated the Samaritans, and that's where they came from.
That's why you see in the Gospels, the disciples didn't want to
walk through Samaria, because they're a bunch of filthy half-breeds
in their eyes. More on that later. So then the Assyrians were taken
over by Babylon. The Babylonians partnered with
another group called the Medes to overthrow Assyrian dominance.
And once the Assyrians were defeated, Babylon kind of just pushed the
Medes to the side because we don't need you anymore. But you
promised us great things. Eh, whatever, go away. So Babylon
rises to power, Nebuchadnezzar's this great king, his grandson
or great-grandnephew, depending on how you look at it, named
Belshazzar, having that party in Daniel chapter 5, and that's
when Cyrus's army takes over Babylon. Remember they diverted
the Euphrates River, went in through the mostly dry riverbed,
up into the city and took it relatively bloodlessly in one
night. So Cyrus had united the Persian
tribes. It was the Medo-Persian Empire
became just known as the Persian Empire because the Persian tribe
rose to prominence over the Medes. And when Cyrus took over Babylon,
he practiced something that was pretty much unheard of in his
day. That was called religious tolerance. He was very, very
open to cultures retaining their individual identity. If you want
to worship Yahweh, awesome. He lets the Jews worship Yahweh.
If the Babylonians want to worship Marduk, he lets them worship
Marduk. And we have these inscriptions,
they're called the Cyrus Cylinder, which talks about Cyrus' conquest
and what he would do. And he would praise the God of
whatever people he controlled. The Babylonian citizens, the
common citizens, saw him as kind of a rescuer from the oppressive
regime of Belteshazzar. So when he comes in and says,
no, no, I'm not going to force you to become Persian. You maintain
your culture. You maintain your religion. In
fact, I'll help you rebuild some of your temples that have been
destroyed in the battle. And he has this long quote that we
have from history where he praises the god of the Babylonians and
said, no, he's a great god. I'll rebuild his temple. I'll
help fund it. And we see the same thing for what he did to
the Jews. He lets the Jews return, said, all the Jews that are scattered
throughout my empire can return back to their city. In fact,
I'm going to fund their rebuilding of the temple. Their God is a
great God. I'll help his temple get rebuilt.
Anybody who threatens the Jews, I'm going to smash them and destroy
them. So Cyrus was seen as a liberator. In fact, the word they used for
Cyrus is the word that we call Jesus. What word is that? What
word do they call Cyrus? What word do you think they use?
A messiah. Cyrus is to this day seen as
a messianic type figure because he rescued them from the Babylonian
captivity. So the Jews go back, there's three waves where the
Jews go back to Jerusalem. The first one was led by a guy
named Zerubbabel. Zerubbabel goes back with the
intention of rebuilding Jerusalem and getting that temple done.
but they immediately run into problems. Does anybody know what
the problems they ran into were? The walls were torn down. Why
were they having trouble rebuilding that? But who was stopping them? They
have an issue. The locals. Okay, so the Jews
were deported. Yeah, the Jews were deported.
They're gone. And unlike the Assyrians, Babylon
never moved anyone back in. So who slowly crept in? What
group of people? The people that surrounded the
people before they left to do the stuff. The Samaritans, one
group. You weren't here for that. The
Samaritans creeped in. Some of the other people said,
hey, there's kind of all this land that's available. And they
just started moving in. When the Jews get back under
Zerubbabel, They start to rebuild, but then it stops. So they need
another guy named Ezra. He leads a group back, and this
is what the whole book of Ezra is about. And he says, look,
we're running into difficulties with the local governing authorities
carrying out Cyrus's decree. So the emperor at the time, he
writes another decree. No, they're going to rebuild
it. So they start rebuilding the temple. Well, again, it kind
of dies down. And you need a third guy to come
in and really get things done. Who's this third guy who comes
in? Nehemiah. Nehemiah. And you read his story
in the book Nehemiah. So Nehemiah comes back and he's
met by some of the leaders of these local groups, these other
groups that have kind of moved in and settled. They don't want
to give up the land they've been in for the last 70, 80 years
at this point. These Jews kind of threaten their
position. They have it pretty sweet. So they try to sweet talk
them. They're like, hey, we worship
Yahweh too. Let us help you build this temple.
Now what's important to understand is they're not lying. They totally
worship Yahweh. The understanding of all the
groups that lived in that region, that Palestine region in Mesopotamia,
is that gods were geographic. So now we're moving outside of
Bible study. Now we're talking about how the native groups back
then viewed deities. Yahweh was nothing more than
the territorial god of Israel. Marduk was the territorial god
of Babylon. This God was a territorial God
over here. So if you move to a different
area, you can still worship your God, but who should you also
worship? You should worship the territorial
God of that region, that domain. No, you don't. In fact, there's
a story in... Remember the Syrian general? What's that guy's name? His name
escapes me. He was a Syrian general. He had
leprosy. Yes, Naaman. And Elijah heals him. And Naaman
becomes a believer in Yahweh. And he asks, when I go back,
can I please take some dirt from Israel with me? Why would he
think to do that? What possible reason would he
want to grab dirt to take it with him back to his home in
Syria? It's a physical, tangible connection
to the land over which Yahweh is sovereign. Now, I don't fault
Naaman for that because he didn't grow up understanding. But Naaman
came to understand that Yahweh is the only God who can heal
in this capacity. He wants to worship that God.
He's so worried that God may strike him dead when he carries
his master, the king, into the temple to worship. I think it
was Dagon. He goes, I don't want God to strike me dead. I'm doing
my duty. My king's old. He's elderly. I have to help
him there. He has to hold on my arm as I kneel him down and
raise him up from the altar. And Elijah has to assure him
that God's not going to strike you dead. So I have full confidence
that Naaman, Naaman, became a true convert. But he still had in
the back of his mind this understanding of, I need to have a physical
tie to the God that I now serve. I think he had saving faith,
just not a complete understanding of who Yahweh was. So these people
that volunteer their help, yeah, they do worship Yahweh, but they
don't worship him as king of kings, lord of lords, god of
gods. He's just another god. All right, so that sets up what
we're going to be talking about here. So let's look in Daniel
chapter eight. And I have to get used to reading this Orthodox
Bible because in this one, Daniel was the last book of the Old
Testament. Yeah, so. And what we call Ezra is called
Second Ezra here. And what they call First Ezra
is not in our Protestant Bible. So it's really, it's not good
to try to flip through quickly. Alright, so Daniel chapter 8.
I want somebody to start reading in verse 1 and just be prepared
to be interrupted. In the third year of the reign
of King Belshazzar, a vision appeared to me, Daniel, after
that which appeared to me at the first. And I saw in the vision,
and when I saw, I was in Susa, the citadel, which is in the
province of Elam. And when I saw in the vision,
and I was in the Ulai canal, I raised my eyes and saw, and
behold, a ram standing on the bank of the canal. It had two
horns, and both horns were high, but one was higher than the other,
and the higher one came up last. All right, let's stop right there.
Now, what empire is ruling at this point? Babylon is, because
of King Belshazzar. Right. And what animal does Daniel
see? A ram. A ram. Describe it to
me. Two horns. Two horns. One longer than the
other. And which one? Yes. And the larger one came up second. Now, when we looked at apocalyptic
literature last week in kind of an introduction, when we're
reading biblical apocalyptic literature, Ezekiel, Daniel,
Revelation, beasts typically represent empires. And the horns
typically represent the kings of said empire. So this is a
beast going to represent an empire, and it has two horns. All right,
keep reading. First part. I saw the ram charging
westward and northward and southward. No beast could stand before him,
and there was no one who could rescue from his power. He did
as he pleased and became great. All right, let's stop right there.
So this ram is pushing westward, northward, north, north, and
southward, north, south, and west. He never goes to the east. This is, and it tells you later,
we don't need to, for time's sake, we won't read this, but
this is Persia. In fact, the national animal, if you will,
of Persia is a ram. So it would have been immediately
recognized, okay, talking about Persia. Persia, by this point,
is already powerful. The Medo-Persian Empire is powerful.
It started out as just being the Mede Empire. It became the
Medo-Persian Empire. By the time Cyrus conquers Babylon,
it's only the Persian Empire. So these two horns are the kings
of Media and the kings of Persia. The greater one is Persia, because
Persia ascended after Mede, and they became the greater part.
Cyrus himself, some of his history is legendary, so this is not
authoritative. but it's believed that Cyrus,
his father was a Persian noble and his mother was from the tribe
of the Medes. So he had the bloodline of both.
So when he rebelled against his Median overlords and assumed
the throne, both tribes accepted him because he's from the noble
family of both tribes. So Cyrus comes to the power,
we already talked about how awesome he was, and he conquered Greatly. I mean he was he was a liberator
a lot of people willingly surrendered to him because he's a Fantastic
leader. He's not called Cyrus the Great
for no reason. Okay. This guy is awesome military
genius extremely politically savvy and From what we can tell
all around great guy. All right, so being under Persian
rule was not bad at all All right. Keep reading As I was considering,
behold, a male goat came from the west across the face of the
whole earth without touching the ground. And the goat had
a conspicuous horn between his eyes. Conspicuous is not a word
we use often. Anybody have a different translation
that has a more English friendly word? Notable. Notable. One large horn. So if beasts represent empires
and the horns represent the king, what empire do you think is going
to be represented by a goat? Greece. And who would this very
large, prominent, notable, conspicuous horn represent? Alexander the
Great. Alexander the Great. Another
great guy. I don't think he was as great
as Cyrus, but he's called great. Why? Why don't you think he was
great? Alexander was not as... He's
not... He was... No, no, no. Militarily, yes.
When it comes to... He didn't last as long. Militarily... And we're gonna look at this.
Alexander was, of course, probably unmatched until Napoleon. And
that's debatable. But we're not going to talk about
the poll here. Maybe at the end of the class if we run out of
things to say. He came to the ram with the two
horns, which I had seen standing on the bank of the canal, and
he ran at him in his powerful wrath. I saw him come close to
the ram, and he was enraged against him and struck the ram and broke
his two horns. And the ram had no power to stand
before him, but he cast him down to the ground and trampled on
him. And there was no one who could rescue the ram from his
power. Then the goat became exceedingly great, but when he was strong,
the great horn was broken, and instead of it, there came up
four conspicuous horns toward the four winds of heaven. Okay,
so now we're going to talk a little bit about what happens leading
up to this. Now the goat is Greece. In fact, prior to Alexander's
ascendancy to power in the Greek Empire, they were looked down
on by the Persians as a bunch of goat herders. That's the similarities
to documents we have. Those good-for-nothing, dirty
goat herders way out to the west on their little islands. That's
how they were seen. So when it talks about this goat,
oh, that's Greece. So when Cyrus died, his son,
I'm going to butcher all these names, Cambias, assumed the throne. And he immediately set out to
conquer a problem in his empire that was Egypt. So that's what
he does. He goes out, he conquers Egypt.
And as he's winning the battle, this guy who says his name is
Bardiya, has risen up back home in Persia and says, I'm going
to assume the throne. Now the problem is Bardiya was
Cambus' brother that he had already murdered to secure his place
on the throne. So this is somebody claiming
to be his brother. So he has to leave Egypt, he
has to go back over there and execute this guy to solidify
his power. He leaves behind in Egypt a group
of Jewish mercenaries in this island, an island in the Nile
River, the Nile's huge. is called the Isle of Elephantine,
and it leaves a Jewish garrison to help guard that. Now what's
significant about that is in the 1940s, prior to the Dead
Sea Scrolls, they discovered this massive amount of documents
at the Isle of Elephantine that talked about this Jewish community
that grew up around that garrison, that talked about all of their
communications back and forth, official documents, religious
worship, and what they did. Because These Jewish community, obviously,
what did they not do when Cyrus was king? They didn't go back. A bunch
of Jews did not go back. They only estimate like 20,000
Jews returned to Jerusalem when Cyrus allowed them to. But we
have stories about these Jews in the Bible who never returned.
Anybody think of them? What stories in the Bible do
we have of the Jews who chose not to return, besides Daniel? Esther. Esther's the most famous
one. Obviously, Nehemiah didn't, because
he was a cupbearer to the king. He didn't return until long after. Now, there's some debate as to
which emperor it was of the Persian Empire that Nehemiah served. Some say it was Xerxes. Some
say it was his son Artaxerxes. Most people say Xerxes, but I
heard a really good argument that it's Artaxerxes, and if
it is, that means Esther was the queen that Nehemiah was talking
to, because it said he went to the king and the queen to ask
permission to go back, if that lines up. It would be cool, so
I want to believe it because it's cool, but it's not something
to really argue about. But obviously, a lot of Jews
didn't go home, and some achieved great success in wherever they
were. Nehemiah was cut bare to the king. Esther. Mordecai. Mordecai was a well-respected
individual in the capital of the Persian Empire. So Jews didn't
go back. So they were scattered, and they
still were, all over the place to this point. And this garrison
that was stationed at Elephantine is proof that there were thriving
Jewish communities all the way in Israel. And one of the attacks
against our Bible is that Judaism is nothing more than Zoroastrianism,
the official religion of the Persian Empire, repackaged. You
ever heard that name? Yeah. But the documentation that
we have proves otherwise. So anyway, so Cambyses leaves
that Jewish garrison there. And he goes off and secures his
throne. Egypt is conquered. All's well,
he dies. A guy named Darius comes to the
throne. Darius, this is not Darius to me from Daniel chapter five.
This is a different Darius. This is the emperor Darius. And
he's not Cyrus the Great. He's not Cambyses. He's a petty dictator. He grew
up during the Golden Age. He really didn't have to fight
for anything. He was born rich. He's been rich his entire life,
didn't have to work for it. And he is so great, he's going
to build a monument to his greatness. And I want to read, I actually
want to read this book here. This is the book that I use.
I haven't lost it already. Most of what I'm getting from
this is called Between the Testaments by Charles F. Pfeiffer. Fantastic little book. So this
guy Darius is going to build a monument to his awesomeness. It's called the Heston Inscription. He chose a mountainside and he
carved it. It's like 80 feet tall and 100
feet wide, written in three different languages that were spoken at
that time about how awesome he is in all this military conquest. In fact, that inscription, because
it was written in three languages, is why we can understand cuneiform
today. because, oh, okay, we can speak
that language, so if this is, we identify these languages,
this is this and this is that in a different language, then
this must be that inscription in cuneiform, hey, we can read
cuneiform. It's like the Rosetta Stone. So he wrote that, and
it is pretty, it's understood that Darius was one of the guys
who let Ezra go back. That's pretty much, pretty much
widely accepted. During this time when Ezra goes
back, he starts the rebuilding of the temple, but the city itself
isn't complete. It stops. The temple is almost
done, but not quite. And God's kind of upset by this,
so he sends two prophets, Haggai and Zechariah, to kind of kick
the Jews and say, hey, why aren't you building my temple? Your
houses are built. You have these wonderful houses.
The streets are paved, yet my temple is still not complete.
Why not? And that's what re-energizes
the people and they get the temple done. One thing Darius did that
is fantastic is he started a postal system. He had a massive empire. But what they did is they had
these horses stationed, like little stations of riders, from
one end of the empire all the way to the other. So you would
give your letter to that guy and he would take off for like,
I think, 70 miles or so until the next one, and they would
hand it off, and that guy would take off. They said you could
cover from one end of the Persian Empire all the way to the other
in just a, wait, I'm not gonna say, I'm gonna say it wrong.
I'm gonna read it. I don't wanna say three days, because I know
that's not it. Four days. It's just an early Pony Express.
It is, that's exactly what it is. Okay, so I'm just gonna read
from here. So this is Pfeiffer. The development of roads in the
postal system was another of the projects Custerius designed
to facilitate the governing of his far-flung empire. Several
great roads were inherited from the old Assyrian empire. One
of those extended from Babylon to Carchemus, with a connecting
spur to Nineveh. And it went all the way to Egypt.
Another one went from Babylon to the heart of the media. Custerius
rebuilt all these roads and blah, blah, blah, the postal system
could cover. Any message from the king from
one governor to another was carried from one stage to the next until
it reached its destination. Here we go. Herodotus, the father
of history, wrote this. He said the Persian post can
be seen engraved, or that their motto, rather, is engraved across
the New York post office to this day. and this is the inscription
that Darius had written. These, neither snow nor rain,
nor heat nor darkness of night, prevent the accomplishing each
one of his appointed tasks with the very utmost speed. 111 post stations were located
along the 1,670 mile road from Susa to Sardis and Ephesus. Those are the three main cities.
It took 90 days to travel that road from end to end. The royal
carriers that relay of horses would cover it in one week. Wow. Yeah, an early pony express.
It lasted longer because they didn't have trains. So Darius-
And the telegraph was always away. Yeah, a bit. So Darius,
in spite of being a kind of a petty dictator, he wasn't very kind
to people, he did have some very innovative ideas. It's also Darius who was fought
in the battle of Marathon. Y'all have heard of the Marathon
race, right? So what happened is the Greece cities, those goat
herders, were starting to grow in power. They're starting to
encourage some rebellions here and there throughout the Persian
Empire, and this upsets Darius. These goat herders are causing
trouble, so he's going to go and attack them. Now, at this
point, Greece is not united. There is no Greek empire. All
these city-states were just kind of doing their own thing. You
had Sparta over here, you had Athens, you had Thebes. All these
cities, they are ruled independently of each other. They all have
the same language. They all have the same kind of
philosophy, culture. They all dress the same. But
as far as working together, uh-uh. They're casted at each other's
throats. In fact, the Spartans and the Athenians would fight
the Peloponnesian Wars against each other and try to eradicate
each other multiple times. But when this Persian army is
arriving, the Greeks unite to repel the invaders. And legend
has it that one of the guys sprints all the way to Marathon to say,
hey, can you come help us? And he's told, no. So he runs
back and says, they're not going to help us, and he dies. And
that's why we have the marathon to commemorate this guy's sacrifice.
Wow. But the Greeks, they win. They stop the Persian advancement. Now they're still not united,
but what that did is it kind of started this idea of, hey
guys, if we all work together, we can accomplish great things.
So it sets that idea into motion. After dealing with another Egyptian
revolt, Darius dies, and Xerxes I comes to power. He had been the king, the sub-king
of Babylon prior to assuming the throne. And this is who most
people think is called Ahasuerus in the book of Esther. Most people
think this is that guy. Under his power, the Greeks,
again, were causing trouble. And he says, fine, I will do
what my predecessor didn't. I'll teach these filthy goat
herders a lesson. And he launches a massive fleet
against them. And there's this pass called
Thermopylae. and it was a very narrow way,
and King Leonidas of Sparta and his troops are gonna defend this
pass against the approaching heathens, they called them Persians.
And they said, we got this beat, no one knows how to get around
it, it's the only path through the mountain, we're secure. But
a trader went to the Persians and said, hey, there's actually
another pass around here and you can completely surround the
Spartans, and that's what happened. An incredible fight. They were
all wiped out. The story is probably exaggerated. Probably. And it ultimately didn't
even really slow the advance of the Persians. It was just
kind of like a speed bump. But it did give the Greeks just
a few more days to put aside their differences and launch
a counterattack against the Persian fleet. Right before the battle,
the storm happened, and it sank a lot of the Persian vessels.
Yeah, so when the Greeks met, it wasn't an overwhelming force
they were fighting, it was kind of equal. Well, the Greeks won. Their tactics were vastly superior,
and they sank the entire Persian fleet. The Persians still had
a massive land army, but they no longer had support. There
was no supply chain, so they eventually had to leave as well.
So Persia was crushed. Imagine just the economic devastation
that they lost. Their entire fleet was sunk. Zerxes was there to watch this. He actually built a temporary
throne on a cliff so he could overlook and watch his victory
and it ended up being a defeat. So he goes back in complete shame
and he's being assassinated because he's a failure. Don't lose your
fleet. Yeah, don't lose your fleet.
Yeah. Yeah, don't ever get involved in a land war. Actually this
was a naval, so I guess that doesn't apply here. So he goes
back and the captain of his bodyguard assassinates him. So that guy
manages to stay on the throne, this captain of the guards, for
seven months until Xerxes' son, Artaxerxes, assassinates him
and assumes the throne. So This is when Herodotus writes
all of his histories. Herodotus is the father of history.
During this time, the Greeks build the Parthenon. And Athens
is under the leadership of a guy named Pericles. And Athens becomes
the principal city of Greece, as far as its power and influence.
Artaxerxes has to put down a third rebellion in Egypt. And this
rebellion in Egypt was sponsored by none other than what group
of people do you think? No, this is a rebellion by Egypt
against the Persians, but they were aided by people, by the
Greeks. Yeah, the Greeks keep poking.
The bear. Keep poking the bear. Yeah, they
keep, which is funny because Persia is referenced as a bear
in Daniel 4. So they're literally poking the
bear. Think about how easy it would have been for Persia to
just cut Africa off of. There's not a land bridge other
than yeah, look that's Suez Yeah, all you gotta do is guard that
a little bit and just be like you guys go do whatever you're doing
over there But that's emitting defeat. I mean and we're gonna
be over here We're gonna be super successful because we're the
cradle of the universe at the time like the Greeks are gonna
do stuff but it's that it's the trying to grasp everything and
end up grasping nothing and It's like Princess Leia said to Darth
Vader. The tighter you squeeze, the
more star systems slip through your fingertips. At least I think
that's what she said. I've obviously never watched
Star Wars. It's heathenistic. She said that to Grandma. Nerd. No, no, it's Darth Vader. Look. Wait, what? No Vader. I generally don't argue. OK,
no, no, we're all subject. No, no, OK. OK, get to it later. Next semester, I'll teach the
gospel in Star Wars. It's a book. We'll teach that.
OK, get him back. You know there is a religion
called Jediism. Yeah, oh gosh. OK. Yes, and Britain. All right. So that's what's going
on in Persian. The Greeks are just constantly
saying, hey, Egypt, you should totally rebel against Persia.
It never works, but Egypt keeps doing it. And Persia is just
constantly getting mad at Greece. But because they're so far away,
and they've already lost their fleet, and they're very financially
crippled at this point, they really can't do much about it.
So it's just a growing problem. Back in Israel at this time,
this is Ezra's leading his reform. A lot of the mixed marriages
are a problem. The Jews that went back under Zerubbabel, they've
kind of gotten placent. They're marrying all these Samaritan
women. They're marrying these heathen women. It's just causing
constant problems. Nehemiah comes back, gets the
wall rebuilt, tells all the Jews to divorce their heathen wives
and send them away. Now, obviously, these women converted
to worshiping Yahweh. They're allowed to stay. But
many of the Jews say, we understand, and they kick their foreign wives
out. And this is when Malachi comes and prophesies. And that's
the end of our Old Testament period. That's it. Artaxerxes
is on the throne. Nehemiah has rebuilt Jerusalem.
Ezra's really, really old, if he's still alive when that's
finished. They were contemporaries, Ezra and Nehemiah. Malachi does
the final prophecy. Old Testament's done. Turn the
page. Rome's in power and John the Baptist is. running around
like a madman in the wilderness somewhere. That's kind of how
the Bible works. When was the temple completed? About 400.
400 BC. Because it's called the 400 years
of silence, so we're going to use that. Like the temple, they're
like, ta-da! Yes. Fast forward, Rome's in
power. And they're like, whoa! Where'd
they come from? So the intertestamental period
is 400, about 400 years. Yeah, 400 years of silence is
called, the academic call it second temple Jewish period,
the second temple period, or intertestament. All three kind
of mean the same things, slight variation. All right, now what
happens during that time with Persia, Greece constantly causing
problems, Egypt causing problems, There are a lot of revolts by
the common people. So Persia's not only having problems
on its fringes in Egypt, it's not only having problems with
the competing nation to the west, Greece, the common people in
Persia are really getting upset by all these high taxes. Surprised
people have hated being taxed always. And also during this time, about
338 BC, this guy named Philip, who is the king of the Macedonian
tribes just north of Greece, decides, these people to my south
are great people. I love their culture. I love
their philosophy. They have nice togas. They should
be won. They're obviously incapable of
doing this by themselves. I'm going to help them out. And
he conquers Greece. So for the first time in 338
BC, all these separate city-states of Greece become one under Philip
of Macedonia. Philip dies, and his young son
at the age of 20, 23, assumes the throne as the emperor of
the Greek nation. And what is his name? Alexander.
Alexander. He's not the great yet. Not yet.
Not yet. He's got some work to do. We're
going to see what Mr. Alexander does. All right, so
he officially becomes king in 336 BC. Now, the same year that
he became king, Darius III becomes the emperor of Persia. Alexander
was told by his father, Philip, on his deathbed, you need to
go after Persia. Persia's launched attack after
attack against Greece. Greece hates Persia. Persia is
weaker than they've ever been. They're ripe for the taking.
You can take them over. That is my dying wish to you,
my son. Conquer Persia. Alexander says,
okay, dad. And in three years, he's conquered
all Persia. Three years. A lot of these cities
welcome him with open arms. Because why did they hate Persia?
What were they being? High taxes. High taxes. Alexander
was seen as a liberator now one of the legendary stories when
Alexander is Coming to Jerusalem because Jerusalem was controlled
by the Persians. So as far as he's concerned, this is a well-fortified
city of my enemy He gets to them and he's met by the high priest
at that time and he opens up the book to Daniel chapter 8
and says we were told you were coming but I'm paraphrasing this. Alexander, what do you mean you
were told I was coming? Our God has said through our prophet
Daniel a hundred years ago that a great goat from the West is
coming to destroy the ram. You are our deliverer. Welcome,
Alexander. Apparently, Alexander was so
flattered by this that he went back, had dinner with the priest,
hung out, petted the dog. That's funny. Jews don't have
dogs. OK, anyway. So the high priest
and Alexander are great friends. And Alexander's army stays, gets
some reinforcements, and they just carry on their merry way.
And Israel is left completely unscathed. by all of this. Brilliant. Yeah, fantastic. I mean, they're
very shrewd. They weren't going to win a gunfight.
They were not. And the official end of the Persian
Empire is dated at 330 BC, in case you wanted to write that
down. And when did the Persian Empire die? 330 BC. So 550 to
330 BC was the reign of the Persian Empire. And now all that they
controlled is now ruled by one man, Alexander, now known as
the Great. All right, any questions so far? Because I talked a lot. OK. What's going on in Rome at
this point? It's not a thing yet. It's not
a thing. It hasn't been born yet. Yep.
It's not a thing. Sorry. All right, so a little
bit more about what the Jews were doing, because remember,
they've been scattered all over the place since 720 BC. You already
talked about the Samaritans. They're considered a mixed race,
half-breed, inferior. The Jews in Jesus' day didn't
like them. So when Alexander the Great takes
over, did he also take over Egypt? Egypt became his too. Yeah. Yeah,
in fact, he built... Libraries, right? Yeah. The man... When he conquered all Persia,
so from Egypt all the way to the Indus River in India, he
controlled all of that. The only reason he stopped is
because his army said, dude, we're done. If you don't stop
now, we're going to kill you. So Alexander says, you know what?
I think I'm done. And they turned around. They
started marching back. Now, this has been like 10 years, the entire
campaign. I mean, Persia fell, but he kept
going. So on the way back, and this
is the part that Daniel spoke of, Alexander, well, through
the whole way, he's spreading Greek culture, right? He loved
the Greeks, just like his father did. He loved the language, the
culture, the togas, everything. He wanted everyone to become
Greek, because it was the best. In fact, his tutor was Aristotle,
the famous philosopher. You know, you had Socrates, a.k.a.
Socrates, Plato, then Aristotle. Alexander's private tutor was
Aristotle. So the man loved, loved Greek
culture. But his downfall was, is as he's
taking victory after victory after victory, conquering city
after city, He starts to go into these various places of the deities
that those local people worship, and he starts to assume titles
for himself that makes it seem like he sees himself as a god.
Now this is something the Greeks completely rejected. Now of course
they believed in Zeus and all these gods and having affairs
with mortals and producing demigods, but no human king could claim
divinity for himself. So as he's gaining greater and
greater glory for himself, he's taking on these titles of divinity.
And he named 70 cities after himself. Maybe it was 50. Dozens
of cities after himself. Alexandria, the most famous of
which is Alexandria, Egypt, where this huge library, which had
been the Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Oxford, all wrapped up
into one of its day. They collected writings from
all over the known world. Everybody brought their scientific
studies, religious books. The Jews, remember that large
Jewish population in Egypt, Elephantine? Well, there was also a lot of
Jews in Alexandria because people were encouraged to move there.
They were state-of-the-art cities. So the Jews there are the ones
who would end up translating the Old Testament, which was
written in Hebrew, into a language that everybody of their day could
read, which was what? Greek. Which, Greek. So, all
these, Alexander... When was Hebrew dead? It died
during the Babylonian captivity. During those two or three generations
that were born and grew up in, it was gone. They didn't know
it. The old people knew it. So if
you were 10 when you were taken, you were 80 when you came back.
Most people back then didn't live that long. So there had
been a handful of Octarians that spoke Hebrew some of the uh religious
leaders to people that family you know families were super
orthodox they would make sure their kids knew it ezra was not 80
but he knew hebrew so but the number overall the common person
didn't speak hebrew after the captivity it took 70 years to
pretty much wipe it out has daniel written all in hebrew or is it
different languages with different different languages so hebrew
was still Yeah, the first there's there's a very clear line in
Daniel Yeah, it starts in Hebrew chapter 1 I think the first half
of chapter 2 are written in Hebrew Yeah, the prophecies are written
in Hebrew So there's a part where it says in Daniel answered in
Aramaic and from that point forward is in Aramaic Yeah, the prophecies are written
in Hebrew. It wasn't completely dead. Not everybody could read
it. Yeah, but the scholars knew it. It wasn't spoken in Jerusalem
post. When everybody came back they
all spoke Aramaic except for Maybe a few who could then translate
what was brought to Alexandria. Which is why they had no idea
what the law said. It wasn't Ezra who read it and
they all cried because they were like, oh, snap. Yeah, like, oh,
we need to, we're not supposed to. We haven't done any of those
things. Let me know how. I never thought about it. Maybe
there was a language barrier at that point. I just assumed
it was lost or whatever. Lazy. When was the Bible translated
from Hebrew to Greek? Was that 300 BC or in that same
time? Was that when it was done? Because
they still had the scholar there? Yeah, I don't have that date
of when the Septuagint was written. I want to say it was like 300
something BC when the Persian fell, right? Correct. Okay. So when the Greek came in, so
there still had to be some Hebrew. Yes, there's still people who
spoke it. Yeah, just if you went to a group of kids playing and
started speaking to them in Hebrew, they might just stare at you
like, I understand a few words that you're saying, but I can't
discuss religion and politics with you in Hebrew. Google says
that the Septuagint was written between the 3rd and 1st centuries
BC. So what Google says. I'll just
say it. That'll give us a ballpark. Yeah,
ballpark. When they all came storming back and started burying
people who weren't of Jewish descent, were those leftovers
from the people that Joshua didn't destroy? Some of them probably
would have been. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's a
vacuum. Says whoever was around there
when they noticed there's no one there in that very nice city.
Where'd Bob go? Yeah. Bob's got him. Bob has
a nice house. Mine. Dance. Squatter. Dance. That's exactly. Bunch of squatters.
And the Samaritans were a big part of that, because they're
just north of the border. So... And did the Samaritans have the
same feeling toward the Jews, or did they just like... Well,
they didn't. There was no love loss. There
was no love loss between them. Remember the Jews, when Jesus
got there, remember he meets the woman at the well? Yeah.
And she's like, you know, our fathers say that we'll worship
on this mountain, but you guys say we can only worship in Jerusalem.
And there's already this difference. The Samaritans had their own
copy. of the Septuagint. It's called the Samaritan Septuagint.
There's not one Septuagint. There's multiple Septuagints. So the legend is that the 70
scholars got together and they produced the entire Septuagint
in 70 days or something ridiculous like that. No, that is just a
legend that was created to promote. I think it's 70. The 70. What's that? No, no, St. Nick was 80. Santa
Claus was later. Santa Claus is the guy who punched
Arius in the face at the council. Was it Nicaea? Yeah, yeah. The people who wrote the Septuagint
aren't... I didn't find anything that said, you know, Eleazar
and Daniel III or anything like that did the Septuagint. Just
70 people. But that's legend. What preserved
all of the Old Testament before it got to Alexandria? Well, they
did have it written in scrolls. But these people back then would
memorize tons of stuff. So temple gets destroyed, everyone
leaves Jerusalem. What were their manuscripts that
were hauled off that were then brought back? The details, I
don't know. We do know that they had it written
down because some of the kings of Judah, the godly nation, when they forgot the law, and
good King Josiah, was it Josiah who discovered it? Yes. And he
read it, and the people hadn't heard it. So it was written down.
Sure. But even when they were, you
know, a godly nation, they left it. So they had writing, it was
written down in scrolls, it was not found in a book like what
we have now. Sure. So they did have written
documents. But back then, it was not uncommon
for people to memorize massive passages of Scripture. They would
shame all of us today with what they would memorize. They had
to. It was very expensive to have anything handwritten. To
copy the Bible, Before the printing press came around, it would take
about 10 months to a year by hand to write this out. So if
you wanted a copy of a Bible, you're gonna pay a scribe a year's
salary to get it. So this would be a $22,000 book
right here. Yeah. The common person didn't have
their own copy of the scripture. So what did they do? They memorized
it. And this is something that's
lost in America. Even recently, they would tell stories about
what people would do in the 1800s, like the school kids were required
to do. They would have to memorize chapters.
They would recite their lessons. Yes, recite. Get up there and
just talk. And for 30 minutes, they would
just read off what they had memorized. It's something that's lost in
our culture, and we can't even fathom having to do that today.
Because we can go, hey Siri, when was the Septuagint written?
I mean if you want me you can't afford this you can't afford
it you want to know the God's Word you go listen to it and you memorize
it So, long story short, they either
had copies or made new copies of the Old Testament that was
written in Hebrew and they, during the intertestinal period at Alexandria,
it got translated into Greek, which is what would have been
later translated into English. Correct, correct. they were able
to rebuild, because I'm sure they weren't, if they didn't
have copies of all those scrolls laying next to each other, they
had to rebuild that library, if you will, to make it complete
to be able to translate. Yeah, what other gaps they had
in actual documentation would have had to have been from memory.
But, I mean, the Jews were, they did value their scrolls, so they,
it would make sense to me, again, I don't know the details, that
they would have when they went to exile, Daniel probably took
with him writing, because he had the copy of the book of Jeremiah. So, because he references it.
So yeah, they would have, they had their means of preserving
it. I don't know what to extent, I can't speak authoritatively
on that, but they had it written down. So Alexander spreads Greek
culture, names all these cities after himself. They are built,
all these Alexandrians, for the sole purpose of promoting Greek
culture. Now, Alexander did not force
anybody to start worshiping Zeus or Poseidon or any of that stuff,
but he wanted them to learn Greek. And he was extremely successful
in it. Because, so on the way back,
when he went to the India River, his army says, we're done. Legend
says Alexander wept because there were no more lands to conquer.
He turned around and went back. He dies mysteriously on the way
back. He never makes it back to Greece
or Macedonia. He has no viable heir. He has a wife. I think she was
Persian. who had an infant son, but she
is killed very quickly along with the newborns. And Alexander
on his deathbed even said, To the strongest goes my empire.
He didn't even leave it to his son or anything. He said, to
the strongest goes my empire. So his wife and kid were killed
quickly after he died? Very quickly, yeah. Within like
two weeks. Which is not uncommon in the
ancient world. Because you've got to kill the
bloodlines. Destroy the whole empire. Otherwise, in 20 years,
the son's like, hey, yo, my turn. I'm the rightful heir. You killed
my father. Prepare to die. So Alexander dies. To the strongest
goes my empire. Now, that is Alexander's stupid
statement because what was always important for a king to have
is a male heir to the throne for the sole purpose of not having
a war after his death. So when Alexander dies and says
something as stupid as, to the strongest goes my empire, what
would you expect to happen? people to fight, because I would
like to find out who the strongest is. So there are four generals.
So remember that Daniel's vision was that great horn at the height
of his power is broken off and four other large horns come up,
though not to the extent of the first. So these four generals
take over the empire. I am not going to try to pronounce
their names. The two that I can pronounce are Ptolemy and Seleucus. And it is a surprisingly bloodless
affair. I mean, I'm not saying people
didn't die, but there's no... Yeah. Correct. As far as massive armies fighting
each other. Because let's say for argument's
sake, okay, Alexander dies, okay? You're what Alexander? You die. I, Matt, Chris, and Nate are
the generals, and we all kind, we were already in charge of
regions, and now There's no Alexander. Alexander has no heir. I have
my armies in Egypt. Hey, I want to rule Egypt. Anybody
got a problem with that? And Matt's right next to me in
a... And Syria, that's like, nah,
not really, because if I go to war with you, even if I beat
you, I've still lost a lot of people, then Nate will attack
me. But if Nate attacks him, Nate's gonna lose a lot of people,
so then Chris can just kind of take over. So there's this uneasy
alliance of these four generals who become kings in their own
right that divide up Alexander's empire. Yes. It's all like rock,
paper, scissors, but there's four of us. and just go after
him. Yeah, but always someone stabs
the other person in the back. They're Greeks. They stand at
the end of the battle, and then all of a sudden, someone's getting
stabbed into the ribs. So that's where we're going to stop because
it's 740. Alexander is dead. Four generals end up taking over.
The only two that we care about are Ptolemy and Seleucus. Ptolemy controls Egypt, and Seleucus
controls the region of Syria. All right, any questions about
what we covered today? Today was just kind of more of a blanket
history. History of blankets. All right,
if nobody has any questions, I will stop the recording. We'll
look at these individual Greek empires and kind of what they
did and their love affair with power and how Israel is stuck
in the middle.
From Cyrus to Alexander
Series WSG Intertestamental Period
Using Daniel 8 as our primary text, we discuss the Persian Empire from the rise of Cyrus the Great to its demise at the hand of Alexander the Great.
| Sermon ID | 21251759177617 |
| Duration | 56:35 |
| Date | |
| Category | Bible Study |
| Bible Text | Daniel 8 |
| Language | English |
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